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natural horn is so cool. i really like Waves. acoustic music is da bomb.

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On Oct 26, 2010, at 11:25 AM, "i_ching_music" <rb@horn.pro> wrote:

> Greetings, I am very please to be able to share a news article on me and my composing, plus a great video showing off my natural horns, which was a one-take; first take video!
>
> I am sure the composers on this list know how rare this sort of article is!
>
> http://www.buzzcity.ca/Music.html
>
> At the bottom of the article is "Listen to I-Ching audio samps:" of Microtonal interest is the "Waves".
>
> Richard O. Burdick
>
>

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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

Thanks for posting this. As a former trumpet player and
fanboy of early labrosones, I appreciated the demo. And the
two sample tracks sound great. The recordings sound really
'close' through headphones, and that really seems to work well.

-Carl

At 08:25 AM 10/26/2010, you wrote:
>Greetings, I am very please to be able to share a news article on me
>and my composing, plus a great video showing off my natural horns,
>which was a one-take; first take video!
>
>I am sure the composers on this list know how rare this sort of article is!
>
> http://www.buzzcity.ca/Music.html
>
>At the bottom of the article is "Listen to I-Ching audio samps:" of
>Microtonal interest is the "Waves".
>
>Richard O. Burdick
>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

Love your old horns!!

A lot of tubing there - quite a lot!

Chris

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:25 AM, i_ching_music <rb@...> wrote:

>
>
> Greetings, I am very please to be able to share a news article on me and my
> composing, plus a great video showing off my natural horns, which was a
> one-take; first take video!
>
> I am sure the composers on this list know how rare this sort of article is!
>
> http://www.buzzcity.ca/Music.html
>
> At the bottom of the article is "Listen to I-Ching audio samps:" of
> Microtonal interest is the "Waves".
>
> Richard O. Burdick
>
>
>

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🔗aum <aum@...>

🔗Caleb Morgan <calebmrgn@...>

Me, the listener: Shrek-like, middle-aged, irritable, but not entirely unkind. Good headphones.

The piece: ??, Sine waves are added, building toward a massive white-noise-like sound. Somehow the sines align into ? one harmonic series, pitch glisses up and down, they de-align, and are removed one by one. One's (irritable) attention is drawn to pitches which *pulse*, in combination with other pitches at nearly the same frequency, because our perceptions are keyed to *change*. So the pulsing is good.

I turned it down little by little as the piece went on: I don't like being a frog in a pan of gradually heating water.

The symmetrical pacing -- giving perhaps as much time to the removal of pitches as to the adding of them -- is formal rather than appealing to this ogre's perceptual apparatus. That is, we ogres perceive the beginnings of things as more interesting and salient than their removal or continuation. I suspect it is somewhat the same for other animals, and nice humans, too.

--- On Fri, 4/13/12, aum <aum@...> wrote:

From: aum <aum@...>
Subject: [MMM] new piece
To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 13, 2012, 7:27 PM

Hi all,

I uploaded one more of my "sinus studies" - Flex Nr. 10 - 1+2+3+4=10

(http://www.uvnitr.cz/mg/flex/flex10.html).

The piece consists of gradually being added 1234 sine waves with equal

amplitudes and frequencies of 1233 equal division of 256.

The most interesting part is in the middle of the piece where all waves

go in-phase. If somebody can explain what exactly happens there and why,

please let me know.

Enjoy!

Milan

P.S. Made by csound.

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🔗kraiggrady <kraiggrady@...>

Hi Milan~
``I quite enjoyed hearing something this saturated in density. rarely do
we hear anything this thick. It noticed many things on the way down i
didn't hear on the way up so i think the second part is Ok until the the
last bit when things stop happening.

I have noticed when i play thick chords and i look at the math of what
the beats should be, it often doesn't fit, and i imagine that might be
the case here
too. But thanks for sharing. It is a disorienting piece which is both
a plus and minus.

On 14/04/12 9:40 PM, Caleb Morgan wrote:
>
> Me, the listener: Shrek-like, middle-aged, irritable, but not entirely
> unkind. Good headphones.
>
> The piece: ??, Sine waves are added, building toward a massive
> white-noise-like sound. Somehow the sines align into ? one harmonic
> series, pitch glisses up and down, they de-align, and are removed one
> by one. One's (irritable) attention is drawn to pitches which
> *pulse*, in combination with other pitches at nearly the same
> frequency, because our perceptions are keyed to *change*. So the
> pulsing is good.
>
> I turned it down little by little as the piece went on: I don't like
> being a frog in a pan of gradually heating water.
>
> The symmetrical pacing -- giving perhaps as much time to the removal
> of pitches as to the adding of them -- is formal rather than appealing
> to this ogre's perceptual apparatus. That is, we ogres perceive the
> beginnings of things as more interesting and salient than their
> removal or continuation. I suspect it is somewhat the same for other
> animals, and nice humans, too.
>
> --- On Fri, 4/13/12, aum <aum@... <mailto:aum%40volny.cz>> wrote:
>
> From: aum <aum@... <mailto:aum%40volny.cz>>
> Subject: [MMM] new piece
> To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, April 13, 2012, 7:27 PM
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I uploaded one more of my "sinus studies" - Flex Nr. 10 - 1+2+3+4=10
>
> (http://www.uvnitr.cz/mg/flex/flex10.html).
>
> The piece consists of gradually being added 1234 sine waves with equal
>
> amplitudes and frequencies of 1233 equal division of 256.
>
> The most interesting part is in the middle of the piece where all waves
>
> go in-phase. If somebody can explain what exactly happens there and why,
>
> please let me know.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Milan
>
> P.S. Made by csound.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

/^_,',',',_ //^/Kraig Grady_^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

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🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

oh my ears!

cool experiment - been a while since I've heard anything from you
I think not since you posted on TiS.

the middle sounds excellent@ its like you captured an alien space ship
landing.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 7:27 PM, aum <aum@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi all,
> I uploaded one more of my "sinus studies" - Flex Nr. 10 - 1+2+3+4=10
> (http://www.uvnitr.cz/mg/flex/flex10.html).
> The piece consists of gradually being added 1234 sine waves with equal
> amplitudes and frequencies of 1233 equal division of 256.
> The most interesting part is in the middle of the piece where all waves
> go in-phase. If somebody can explain what exactly happens there and why,
> please let me know.
> Enjoy!
> Milan
> P.S. Made by csound.
>
>
>

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🔗prentrodgers <prentrodgers@...>

🔗aum <aum@...>

Hi Caleb, Craig, Chris & Prent,
thanks for listening and comments.

The piece is not totally symmetrical. In the first half the adding part to the steady part duration ratio is 1200/34, in the second half the steady to the subtracting are in golden ratio.

All tones have the same amplitude and constant frequency. Frequencies are equally distributed on log. scale - 1234 notes in 8 octaves.

The piece is a result of my experiments with mixing sine waves to obtain the noise. If you mix many sine waves with frequencies equally distributed on linear scale, the result should be similar to the white noise. If you mix many sine waves with frequencies equally distributed on logarithmic scale, the result should be similar to the pink noise. And since obtaining the pink noise is not an easy task, I performed this experiment but forgot to randomize the phases of generators. The result was a gliding tone slowly dissolving in the noise. I am curious in mathematical description of it.

For the simplicity (I was lazy to clean up the code) the halves of the piece were generated separately, both from the middle (all generators in-phase) to the ends. First part was then reversed (in time) and inverted (in amplitude) and spliced with the second part. Csound sources follow:

First part:
<CsoundSynthesizer>
<CsInstruments>
sr = 44100
ksmps = 16
nchnls = 2
seed 1

; Instrument #1 - oscillator
instr 1
ka linseg 0, 0.1, 1, p3-1.1, 1, 1, 0
ks linseg 0, 10, 1, 1, 1
a1 poscil3 p4*ka,p5,1, 0
outs a1*(1+ks*(1-2*p6))/2, a1*(1-ks*(1-2*p6))/2
endin

; Instrument #99 - score generator
instr 99
inum = 1234
ifreqmin = 432.1/16
ifreqmax = 432.1*16
iamp = 200

iq pow ifreqmax/ifreqmin, 1/(inum-1)

idurmin = 17
idurvar = 600+5

ii = 0
lp1:
iqi pow iq, ii
idurrnd linrand idurvar
ipan linrand 1
event_i "i", 1, 0, idurmin+idurrnd, iamp, ifreqmin*iqi, ipan
fprints "./1234a.txt", "%f %f \\n", idurmin+idurrnd, octcps(ifreqmin*iqi)-octcps(ifreqmin)
loop_le ii, 1, inum-1, lp1
endin

</CsInstruments>
<CsScore>
; Score length
f 0 620
; Table #1, a sine wave.
f 1 0 16384 10 1
i 99 0 0
e
</CsScore>
</CsoundSynthesizer>

Second part:
<CsoundSynthesizer>
<CsInstruments>
sr = 44100
ksmps = 16
nchnls = 2
seed 2

; Instrument #1 - oscillator
instr 1
ka linseg 0, 0.1, 1, p3-1.1, 1, 1, 0
ks linseg 0, 10, 1, 1, 1
a1 poscil3 p4*ka,p5,1, 0
outs a1*(1+ks*(1-2*p6))/2, a1*(1-ks*(1-2*p6))/2
endin

; Instrument #99 - score generator
instr 99
inum = 1234
ifreqmin = 432.1/16
ifreqmax = 432.1*16
iamp = 200

iq pow ifreqmax/ifreqmin, 1/(inum-1)

iphi=1.618
idurmin = 617/(iphi+1)
idurvar = 617-idurmin

ii = 0
lp1:
iqi pow iq, ii
idurrnd linrand idurvar
ipan linrand 1
event_i "i", 1, 0, idurmin+idurrnd, iamp, ifreqmin*iqi, ipan
fprints "./1234b.txt", "%f %f \\n", idurmin+idurrnd, octcps(ifreqmin*iqi)-octcps(ifreqmin)
loop_le ii, 1, inum-1, lp1
endin

</CsInstruments>
<CsScore>
; Score length
f 0 620
; Table #1, a sine wave.
f 1 0 16384 10 1

i 99 0 0
e
</CsScore>
</CsoundSynthesizer>

One year ago I performed this piece live using SuperCollider instead of Csound. Three photos from the performance can be found here: http://viditelneprase.net/prase2011/10_main.htm

Regards
Milan

A rare interview - blowing my own horn

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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

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🔗aum <aum@...>

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🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

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