Autumnal Modulations

http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/AutumnalModulations.mp3
http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/15eb9cc6a8a58abab04319e332ac65d5-81.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CJBFEyctg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdUazdH510

At 04:57 AM 10/25/2010, you wrote:
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/AutumnalModulations.mp3

I *really* like this one, Carlo. Not only does it fit
with the season, the guitar-sounding patch is really sweet.
Sounds like the pedal steel sometimes found floating around
on a Mike Gordon album.
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-In/dp/B002TSPDTY/

The microtonality works perfectly.

> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/15eb9cc6a8a58abab04319e332ac65d5-81.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CJBFEyctg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdUazdH510

And thanks for documenting your process. You're the first
and only person I know of to get a generalized keyboard and
attempt to regularly compose music in it and fully document
the process!

Still, watching your keyboard stand wobble makes my
hair stand on end! Doesn't it bother you!?

-Carl

Thanks Carl! I am glad you like it!

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:

> I *really* like this one, Carlo...
> ... You're the first and only person I know of to get a generalized keyboard and
> attempt to regularly compose music in it and fully document the process!

what else could you do with a generalized keyboard?
:-)
>
> Still, watching your keyboard stand wobble makes my
> hair stand on end! Doesn't it bother you!?

well... no! it's very convenient, for me, because it's on wheels but I understand what you mean. it does not really hinder my poor isomorphic chops! Maybe when I'll be a virtuoso I'll need another kind of keyboard stand!
;-)

My wife said it is the best microtonal piece she has ever heard. I think I
agree with that. And she is *very* hard to please with micro music.

Carlo, this is obviously a quantum leap with you the analysis and all!

Chris

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Carlo <carlo@...> wrote:

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>
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/AutumnalModulations.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/15eb9cc6a8a58abab04319e332ac65d5-81.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CJBFEyctg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdUazdH510
>
>
>

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Thanks Chris,

my regards to your wife!

After awhile I play using a xenharmonic tuning system it starts sounding so "normal" that I get worried! I get used to it and wonder if other people notice there is something unusual going on.
Anyway, only geeks care about tuning systems. Listeners want to hear interesting music regardless of technical details.

Lately I have discovered a few things (discussed on my blog) that have enabled me a greater control of Carlos Gamma, the tuning system I stubbornly keep using!

:-)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> My wife said it is the best microtonal piece she has ever heard. I think I
> agree with that. And she is *very* hard to please with micro music.
>
> Carlo, this is obviously a quantum leap with you the analysis and all!
>
> Chris

>> ... You're the first and only person I know of to get a generalized
>> keyboard and
>> attempt to regularly compose music in it and fully document the process!
>
> what else could you do with a generalized keyboard?
> :-)

I hope to be joining your ranks soon, once I get my two axis-49s up
and running =) I plan on using them to play many of the different
tunings of the temperaments I've been practicing using the
TransformSynth, so I'm going to need a system where I can easily
switch between many different tunings and mappings. I'll have to check
out your blog as to how you actually retune your keyboards because,
right now, I really don't know how I'm going to go about it.

John M

Hi John,

my "secret" weapon is LMSO:
http://www.nonoctave.com/tuning/LilMissScaleOven/

Best,

- C

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, John Moriarty <JlMoriart@...> wrote:
>
I'll have to check out your blog as to how you actually retune your keyboards because, right now, I really don't know how I'm going to go about it.

Carlo, this is really lovely. The feel is great, the sounds make very deep sense, and I didn't once think about tuning, I just thought about the musical fabric you were spinning. That's a win in my book!

Cheers,
Jon

Jon,

this is what it's all about: music!

Thanks very much to take the time to write your very nice message (and for listening to my music)!

Best,

Carlo

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jonszanto" <jszanto@...> wrote:
>
> Carlo, this is really lovely. The feel is great, the sounds make very deep sense, and I didn't once think about tuning, I just thought about the musical fabric you were spinning. That's a win in my book!
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>

I was so busy asking about your setup and talking about my own that I
didn't even add...

What a great track Carlo! =)

I've looked into LMSO some more and it looks like a great tool. With
an endorsement from the only guy out there doing pretty much what I
want to do, I might have to make the investment pretty soon... You've
found it very easy for to do the specific task of mapping midi from
your keyboard to tunings? Seems like I could do something similar in
Scala, but it looks tiresome.

John

On 10/26/10, Carlo <carlo@...> wrote:
> Jon,
>
> this is what it's all about: music!
>
> Thanks very much to take the time to write your very nice message (and for
> listening to my music)!
>
> Best,
>
> Carlo
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "jonszanto" <jszanto@...> wrote:
>>
>> Carlo, this is really lovely. The feel is great, the sounds make very deep
>> sense, and I didn't once think about tuning, I just thought about the
>> musical fabric you were spinning. That's a win in my book!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jon
>>
>
>
>

It's quite good and relaxing. Worthy of autumn's aire of melancholy.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Oct 25, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Carlo wrote:

> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/AutumnalModulations.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/15eb9cc6a8a58abab04319e332ac65d5-81.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CJBFEyctg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdUazdH510
>

Thanks John!

LMSO is Mac only but, for me, even if you had not a Mac, LMSO could be a good reason to get one (if you are into microtonal/xenharmonic stuff).
I tried Scala (on my Mac) but..."tiresome" sounds like an euphemism to me.
I know many use it so I could be wrong...

Best,

Carlo

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, John Moriarty <JlMoriart@...> wrote:
>
> I was so busy asking about your setup and talking about my own that I
> didn't even add...
>
> What a great track Carlo! =)
>
> I've looked into LMSO some more and it looks like a great tool. With
> an endorsement from the only guy out there doing pretty much what I
> want to do, I might have to make the investment pretty soon... You've
> found it very easy for to do the specific task of mapping midi from
> your keyboard to tunings? Seems like I could do something similar in
> Scala, but it looks tiresome.
>
> John
>

Thank you, Ozan!

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> It's quite good and relaxing. Worthy of autumn's aire of melancholy.
>
> Oz.

Very nice. Super mellow and very evocative. Sounded totally normal to me too--goes to show how close to diatonic you can get with Gamma, despite the lack of pure octaves and the diaschismic-esque twin spirals of fifths.

-Igs

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Carlo" <carlo@...> wrote:
>
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/AutumnalModulations.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/15eb9cc6a8a58abab04319e332ac65d5-81.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8CJBFEyctg
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zdUazdH510
>

Igliashon,

thanks!

It looks like Wendy Carlos was right when she wrote Gamma had "no palpable difference from Just tuning in harmonies".
:-)

- C

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "cityoftheasleep" <igliashon@...> wrote:
>
> Very nice. Super mellow and very evocative. Sounded totally normal to me too--goes to show how close to diatonic you can get with Gamma, despite the lack of pure octaves and the diaschismic-esque twin spirals of fifths.
>
> -Igs

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "cityoftheasleep" <igliashon@...> wrote:
>
> Very nice. Super mellow and very evocative. Sounded totally normal
> to me too--goes to show how close to diatonic you can get with Gamma,
> despite the lack of pure octaves and the diaschismic-esque twin
> spirals of fifths.
>

"Totally normal" is what it sounds to me, too. Actually, I hardly notice it is xenharmonic. But it sounds good!
Yeah, trial and error is one way to explore xenharmonic territory, but to combine it with analysis and/or theory is what I would recommend, too.
--
Hans Straub

Thanks Hans!

Let's see if I can do a "totally abnormal" one, next!
:-)

Carlo

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "hstraub64" <straub@...> wrote:
>
> "Totally normal" is what it sounds to me, too. Actually, I hardly notice it is xenharmonic. But it sounds good!
> Yeah, trial and error is one way to explore xenharmonic territory, but to combine it with analysis and/or theory is what I would recommend, too.
> --
> Hans Straub
>