"C Central" note layout for Chameleon and Carlos Gamma

This is one more chapter of the saga about my search for the ultimate Chameleon note layout with Carlos Gamma tuning system.

This new layout is a variation of my previous one ("A central" ) that I have created following this basic idea: to find a common way to notate Carlos Gamma on both an Halberstadt keyboard and an isomorphic one.

Lately I have been using either my digital piano with a dodecatonic mode of Carlos Gamma or my Chameleon with a full Carlos Gamma note layout, so the question is: is there a common way to notate music that can be applied to both keyboards even though they do not share the same layout?

http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/c7e38f6337dad017f05cc3f18832ac40-76.html

I added a couple of video demonstrations and a new article:
http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/10c767fd3bd1cadf413da8be511c10fa-77.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI8qoM_7KNA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNJ1hoQkhw&feature=player_embedded

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Carlo" <carlo@...> wrote:
>
> This is one more chapter of the saga about my search for the ultimate Chameleon note layout with Carlos Gamma tuning system.
...
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/c7e38f6337dad017f05cc3f18832ac40-76.html
>

Great to see video. Man, an Opal Chameleon and a Nord Stage,
color me envious. But, those are the old Genelecs! Get with
the times! :P -Carl

At 11:33 PM 9/21/2010, Carlo wrote:
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>I added a couple of video demonstrations and a new article:
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/10c767fd3bd1cadf413da8be511c10fa-77.html
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI8qoM_7KNA&feature=player_embedded
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNJ1hoQkhw&feature=player_embedded
>
>--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Carlo" <carlo@...> wrote:
>>
>> This is one more chapter of the saga about my search for the
>ultimate Chameleon note layout with Carlos Gamma tuning system.
>...
>> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/c7e38f6337dad017f05cc3f18832ac40-76.html
>>
>

Genelecs were enough good IMHO. So what would you recommend for these times?

Daniel Forro

On 22 Sep 2010, at 3:40 PM, Carl Lumma wrote:

> Great to see video. Man, an Opal Chameleon and a Nord Stage,
> color me envious. But, those are the old Genelecs! Get with
> the times! :P -Carl

Inside joke. Both Carlo and I have Genelecs, but I have the
newer ones. But then, I couldn't afford the Nord Stage or
the Chameleon. :(

-Carl

At 12:02 AM 9/22/2010, you wrote:
>Genelecs were enough good IMHO. So what would you recommend for these
>times?
>
>Daniel Forro
>
>On 22 Sep 2010, at 3:40 PM, Carl Lumma wrote:
>
>> Great to see video. Man, an Opal Chameleon and a Nord Stage,
>> color me envious. But, those are the old Genelecs! Get with
>> the times! :P -Carl
>

thanks for watching, Carl!
well...those "old Genelecs" sound quite good to my ears!
:-)

- C

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:
>
> Great to see video. Man, an Opal Chameleon and a Nord Stage,
> color me envious. But, those are the old Genelecs! Get with
> the times! :P -Carl

Those were a bargain. they are the HT series. they were manufactured when Genelec tried to enter the Home Theater market (that's why they are called HT) but they failed and sold out those models (that are identical to the studio monitors, btw)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:
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> Inside joke. Both Carlo and I have Genelecs, but I have the
> newer ones.

Hi Carlo~
I haven't been following this at all.
If the tuning is the 20th root of 3/2 I think you can still use a generalized keyboard with 3/2 as your octave with the mappings of a 20 tone scale. For instance a 7/20 scale fits onto a 3/8 keyboard. you treat every 7 th step as your generator just for the process of mapping. I don't have time to map it out at the moment to make sure, but i think it would work

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On 22/09/10 4:40 PM, Carl Lumma wrote:
> Great to see video. Man, an Opal Chameleon and a Nord Stage,
> color me envious. But, those are the old Genelecs! Get with
> the times! :P -Carl
>
> At 11:33 PM 9/21/2010, Carlo wrote:
>> I added a couple of video demonstrations and a new article:
>> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/10c767fd3bd1cadf413da8be511c10fa-77.html
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI8qoM_7KNA&feature=player_embedded
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNNJ1hoQkhw&feature=player_embedded
>>
>> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Carlo"<carlo@...> wrote:
>>> This is one more chapter of the saga about my search for the
>> ultimate Chameleon note layout with Carlos Gamma tuning system.
>> ...
>>> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/c7e38f6337dad017f05cc3f18832ac40-76.html
>>>
>
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Hi Kraig,

I am not sure I understand what you are saying.

Are you saying that a scale with 7 steps (out of 20, with every 7 th step as a generator) fits into the 7 white keys of a standard octave and that in the span of a 3 octave keyboard it is possible to fit all 20 steps of 20th root of 3:2 (using only the white keys)?

- C

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Carlo~
> I haven't been following this at all.
> If the tuning is the 20th root of 3/2 I think you can still use
> a generalized keyboard with 3/2 as your octave with the mappings
> of a 20 tone scale. For instance a 7/20 scale fits onto a 3/8
> keyboard. you treat every 7 th step as your generator just for
> the process of mapping. I don't have time to map it out at the
> moment to make sure, but i think it would work

No. on a 'bosanquet' generalized pattern. for example with hexagon keys

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

a momentary antenna as i turn to water
this evaporates - an island once again

On 22/09/10 9:41 PM, Carlo wrote:
> Hi Kraig,
>
> I am not sure I understand what you are saying.
>
> Are you saying that a scale with 7 steps (out of 20, with every 7 th step as a generator) fits into the 7 white keys of a standard octave and that in the span of a 3 octave keyboard it is possible to fit all 20 steps of 20th root of 3:2 (using only the white keys)?
>
> - C
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady<kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>> Hi Carlo~
>> I haven't been following this at all.
>> If the tuning is the 20th root of 3/2 I think you can still use
>> a generalized keyboard with 3/2 as your octave with the mappings
>> of a 20 tone scale. For instance a 7/20 scale fits onto a 3/8
>> keyboard. you treat every 7 th step as your generator just for
>> the process of mapping. I don't have time to map it out at the
>> moment to make sure, but i think it would work
>
>
>
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