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🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

8/2/2010 4:08:13 PM

Hi all,

Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for the root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two voices in hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then 4x speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh for the extra bass notes).

The two scales are:
1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1

Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo pluck" (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/183) and some reverb. No processing outside of Csound.

The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru

Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.

- Dave

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

8/2/2010 5:13:44 PM

Hi Dave,

This is cool, and somewhat different for you---still ambient, but a
bit more rhythmic propulsion than I usually expect from you. The use
of Csound is nice, and I do like the pluck modulating the sine timbre.
For my taste, the reverb might be a bit too much for clarity, but it
does create an atmospheric wash. Maybe it's a question of keeping a
long reverb time, but balancing the reverb signal more into the
background....(for me)?

The scales look and sound interesting, but it's curious that you have
two high primes in there: 151 and 37, where all the other numbers
factor into 7-limit JI intervals....what's the rationale? Not that
there need be, it *sounds* cool.

Best,
AKJ

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Dave Seidel <dave@superluminal.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for the
> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
> intonation tunings.  Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two voices in
> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then 4x
> speed.  I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh for
> the extra bass notes).
>
> The two scales are:
> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>
> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo pluck"
> (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/183) and some
> reverb.  No processing outside of Csound.
>
> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>
> Comments welcome.  Hope you enjoy it.
>
> - Dave
>
>
>
> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
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--
Best,

Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.akjmusic.com
http://www.untwelve.org

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

8/2/2010 5:22:29 PM

Nice piece - And this makes me want to look at Blue.

Chris

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Dave Seidel <dave@...> wrote:

>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for the
> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
> intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two voices in
> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then 4x
> speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh
> for the extra bass notes).
>
> The two scales are:
> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>
> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo
> pluck" (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/183)
> and some reverb. No processing outside of Csound.
>
> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>
> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.
>
> - Dave
>
>
>

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🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

8/2/2010 5:33:46 PM

Charming. It could be prolonged indefinitely throughout the
Istanbuline night.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Aug 3, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Dave Seidel wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for
> the
> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
> intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two
> voices in
> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then
> 4x
> speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh
> for the extra bass notes).
>
> The two scales are:
> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>
> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo
> pluck" (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/
> 183)
> and some reverb. No processing outside of Csound.
>
> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>
> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.
>
> - Dave
>

🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

8/2/2010 5:43:57 PM

Thanks, Aaron. It is different, but more like the kind of music I used to write before I discovered Csound and embraced just intonation and the drone aesthetic.

Yes, the reverb might be a bit much.

The scales are in what Kraig Grady calls meta-slendro, derived from the "Mt. Meru #3" sequence (there's written material for this on Kraig's site). I used the series to generate the following 12-note scale:

1/1 65/64 9/8 37/32 151/128 21/16 43/32 3/2 49/32 25/16 7/4 57/32 2/1

and then used Scala's MOS (Moment of Symmetry) tool to derive two pentatonic scales.

But really, I wasn't really thinking theoretically at all (at least not about the intervals), I just love the sound of meta-slendro and wanted to do something with it.

- Dave

On 8/2/2010 8:13 PM, Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> This is cool, and somewhat different for you---still ambient, but a
> bit more rhythmic propulsion than I usually expect from you. The use
> of Csound is nice, and I do like the pluck modulating the sine timbre.
> For my taste, the reverb might be a bit too much for clarity, but it
> does create an atmospheric wash. Maybe it's a question of keeping a
> long reverb time, but balancing the reverb signal more into the
> background....(for me)?
>
> The scales look and sound interesting, but it's curious that you have
> two high primes in there: 151 and 37, where all the other numbers
> factor into 7-limit JI intervals....what's the rationale? Not that
> there need be, it *sounds* cool.
>
> Best,
> AKJ
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Dave Seidel<dave@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for the
>> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
>> intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two voices in
>> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then 4x
>> speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
>> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh for
>> the extra bass notes).
>>
>> The two scales are:
>> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
>> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>>
>> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo pluck"
>> (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/183) and some
>> reverb. No processing outside of Csound.
>>
>> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
>> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>>
>> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
>> To unsubscribe, send email sympa@... with body "unsubscribe
>> csound"
>>
>>
>
>
>

🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

8/2/2010 5:52:57 PM

Thanks, Oz. It might even be playable on the kanun (though you would need six players to handle all the parts). Similarly, it would probably work on hammered dulcimers.

- Dave

On 8/2/2010 8:33 PM, Ozan Yarman wrote:
> Charming. It could be prolonged indefinitely throughout the
> Istanbuline night.
>
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Aug 3, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Dave Seidel wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for
>> the
>> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
>> intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two
>> voices in
>> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then
>> 4x
>> speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
>> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh
>> for the extra bass notes).
>>
>> The two scales are:
>> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
>> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>>
>> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo
>> pluck" (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/
>> 183)
>> and some reverb. No processing outside of Csound.
>>
>> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
>> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>>
>> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
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🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

8/2/2010 5:55:52 PM

Thanks, Chris. I recommend blue very highly. A piece like this would be very tedious to write in Csound otherwise, but in blue it's fun. Spent an afternoon on it from start to finish.

- Dave

On 8/2/2010 8:22 PM, Chris Vaisvil wrote:
> Nice piece - And this makes me want to look at Blue.
>
> Chris
>
> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Dave Seidel<dave@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for the
>> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
>> intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two voices in
>> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then 4x
>> speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
>> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh
>> for the extra bass notes).
>>
>> The two scales are:
>> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
>> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>>
>> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo
>> pluck" (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/183)
>> and some reverb. No processing outside of Csound.
>>
>> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
>> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>>
>> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>>
>>
>
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🔗sevishmusic <sevish@...>

8/6/2010 4:50:59 AM

Sounds lovely, and I'm really enjoying this more melodic work from you.

Thanx Dave

Sean

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Dave Seidel <dave@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a short piece written with two mutually-exclusive (except for the
> root) pentatonic scales from Kraig Grady's meta-slendro family of just
> intonation tunings. Musically, it's a cycle consisting of two voices in
> hocket, first stated alone, then combined with itself at 2x and then 4x
> speed. I think it could be performed if one had six good players with
> properly tuned hammered dulcimers or mallet instruments (and a seventh
> for the extra bass notes).
>
> The two scales are:
> 1/1 37/32 21/16 49/32 7/4 2/1
> 1/1 9/8 151/128 3/2 25/16 2/1
>
> Made in Csound with blue, using a nice instrument called "Sine modulo
> pluck" (see http://blue.kunstmusik.com/instruments/show_instrument/183)
> and some reverb. No processing outside of Csound.
>
> The link (for streaming or downloading) is here:
> http://soundcloud.com/mysterybear/sumeru
>
> Comments welcome. Hope you enjoy it.
>
> - Dave
>

🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

8/6/2010 3:07:43 PM

Thank you, Sean.

- Dave

On 8/6/2010 7:50 AM, sevishmusic wrote:
> Sounds lovely, and I'm really enjoying this more melodic work from you.
>
> Thanx Dave
>
> Sean