Planet tuning

Sounds interesting...wondering what the tuning instructions are for the planetary tuning? Who came up with the ratios? I've been reading "The Music of Pythagoras" (Kitty Ferguson, a great book), and this subject is mentioned quite a lot. Maybe you could post me at microstick@......I'd like to perhaps tune my fretless guitar to this tuning...best...Hstick
www.microstick.net

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Neil, Daniel, and whoever else might be interested. . .

The planetary tuning I used is from Hans Cousto - his book The Cosmic Octave explains it. I wonder if it's the same as Berendt?

Daniel, I'd love to hear your piece with the planetary tunings. Is it online?

mercury: 141.27 Hz
venus: 221.23 Hz
mars: 144.72 Hz.
jupiter: 183.58 Hz
saturn: 147.85 Hz
sun: 252.44 Hz
moon (sidereal month - I used this one): 227.43 Hz
moon (synodic month): 210.42 Hz

I recommend the book, he explains everything beautifully, also has frequencies for outer planets, etc. . .

ezekiel

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Mark: This is different again:
Johannes Kepler's book "Harmony Of The Spheres" (Harmonices Mundi) gives pitches to the planets according to their angular velocity as they orbit the sun (Basically how fast the are orbiting the sun given in degrees per hour or other similar units). This means that each planet's pitch changes over time, having a higher note when it is closer to the sun and a lower note when further away, the cycle being repeated (more or less) each time the planet in question completes its orbit.
As well are proposing elliptical orbits for the firs time (rather than circles and epicycles), Kepler notes many harmonic relationships found in nature and argues that planets who's orbits lie next to each other have the position that they do because they are musically right. It is just intonation that Kepler regards as musically right. I have probably misrepresented Kepler's work to some extent.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonices_Mundi

On 9 Jul 2010, at 2:10 AM, Ezekiel wrote:

> The planetary tuning I used is from Hans Cousto - his book The > Cosmic Octave explains it. I wonder if it's the same as Berendt?

Almost, Berendt's book in German language has name "Ich hoere also bin ich" (I hear so I am), I'm not sure if there's an English version...

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> Daniel, I'd love to hear your piece with the planetary tunings. Is > it online?

Yes, I suppose on my Soundclick pages:

www.soundclick.com/forrotronics

but I'll dig direct link to it later today...

Don't expect anything special, it was only a part of my concert and CD project in 2000, like a frame - first half of it I have used as a Prologue, second half as an Epilogue. As an autonome work it's not usable I think...

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> mercury: 141.27 Hz

Same, I detuned C# +31.4 Cent

> venus: 221.23 Hz

Same, A +9.6 Cent

> mars: 144.72 Hz

Same, D -25.1 Cent

> jupiter: 183.58 Hz

Same, F# -13.3 Cent

> saturn: 147.85 Hz

Same, D +11.9 Cent

> sun: 252.44 Hz

Here 136.1, C# -31.4 Cent

> moon (sidereal month - I used this one): 227.43 Hz
> moon (synodic month): 210.42 Hz

Here 420.84, G# +24 Cent

Further I have used:
Uran: 207.36, G# -2.5 Cent
Neptune: 211.44, G# +31.3 Cent
Pluto: 140.25, C# +20.5 Cent
Earth: 194.18, G -16.1 Cent

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> ezekiel

I'm not so much interested now, the result was not so persuading and besides, I have used it once, IMHO it's rather limited system which doesn't allow too much, more serious and deep attempts. I have better ideas which give me more musical output.

Daniel Forro

On 9 Jul 2010, at 2:10 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
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> Daniel, I'd love to hear your piece with the planetary tunings. Is
> it online?

So it's on this address, song Nr. 13 in player:

http://xenharmonic.ning.com/profile/DanielForro

Have a nice day!

Daniel Forro

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Cousto's calculations are based on each planet's average revolution around the sun (what would be a "year" on that planet) - he basically takes that "pitch" and raises it up like 30 octaves until it is in the audible range. To calculate the sun frequency, he did something different, don't remember what it was, but it was interesting and it's in the book.

Anyone have a link to Kepler's planetary frequencies? What about Berendt?