[tuning] [MMM] Melodyne retuned real trombone quartet playing Drei Equale in Tonal-JI on YouTube

The title pretty much sais it all :)
Melodyne retuned real trombone quartet playing Drei Equale in Tonal-JI
on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfI8tQ69zXY

Was finally able to finish it satisfactory after finding a good model
for tonality.
The piece is now entirely in the tonic of D (as Beethoven wrote it).
And if I may say so, it's sounding goood :)
Let me know what you think!

My JI transcription is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/develdenet/mp3/Drei_Equale_No1_%28Tonal-JI%29.png
It's very readable, I put the ratios next to the notes of the original
score image.

More files comming soon, including one where I play a D drone
throughout the piece to show tonality.

Marcel
www.develde.net

Wait, is the contest over? Did I miss something?

-Mike

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Marcel de Velde <m.develde@...> wrote:

>
>
> The title pretty much sais it all :)
> Melodyne retuned real trombone quartet playing Drei Equale in Tonal-JI
> on YouTube.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfI8tQ69zXY
>
> Was finally able to finish it satisfactory after finding a good model
> for tonality.
> The piece is now entirely in the tonic of D (as Beethoven wrote it).
> And if I may say so, it's sounding goood :)
> Let me know what you think!
>
> My JI transcription is here:
>
> http://sites.google.com/site/develdenet/mp3/Drei_Equale_No1_%28Tonal-JI%29.png
> It's very readable, I put the ratios next to the notes of the original
> score image.
>
> More files comming soon, including one where I play a D drone
> throughout the piece to show tonality.
>
> Marcel
> www.develde.net
>
>

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Hi Mike,

> Wait, is the contest over? Did I miss something?
>
> -Mike

Nono don't worry :)
Contest still going strong.
Infact there are finally many people working on an entry now.

But since it'll take a while (months? maximum final entry date will be
june 21 but I hope we won't have to stretch it that long) before
everybody has finished theirs, I've decided not to wait before posting
mine.
Also think it's more fair in a way so you know what you're up against ;)
My entry will still get a random anonymous filename like the other entries.
And it's the choice of the person him/herself if you want to post you
entry online before the competition begins or not.
So far there are 4 completed entries, and 3 people have posted their
version online at some point in some way (petr and charles).
(and others have posted inclomplete versions)
I have no problem with entries beeing posted online before the voting
starts etc.
So if you wish to share yours or even ask for advice etc feel free to do so.
When voting starts all entries will get random filenames and get
rendered in thesame way.
If some people can then identify entries based on previous posts, well
then so be it, no big problem.

Marcel

Ok here it goes.
I was yet again WRONG.

The tuning of the Drei Equale I posted was based on the assumption the
piece is in the tonic of D, as Beethoven seemed to have notated it.
But, after further insights into tonality and my harmonic model, I now
see this piece isn't in the tonid of D but likely in the tonic of F.
Yes, it starts with a D minor chord, and ends with a D major chord,
but D is 5/3 from F and 5/3 from the tonic is a harmonic model root of
itself.
Actually, this does make sense in the notation way, seemes like this
is no error of Beethoven or regular music theory or notation at all,
as D minor is equal to F major in notation.
In any case, to see the tonic as F makes a lot of sense in this piece.
The "fundamental basses" (something very similar to my harmonic model
roots) indicate clearly a structure that has F as the true tonic of
the entire piece. The piece actually seems to use all 5 harmonic roots
present in 6-limit tonality, namely 1/1, 5/4, 4/3, 3/2, and 5/3 (F, A,
Bb, C, and D), amazing.
The Drei Equale has never made as much sense to me as it does now.
So give it a week or so and I'll have the new version ready.

Marcel

On 7 April 2010 07:07, Marcel de Velde <m.develde@...> wrote:
> The title pretty much sais it all :)
> Melodyne retuned real trombone quartet playing Drei Equale in Tonal-JI
> on YouTube.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfI8tQ69zXY
>
> Was finally able to finish it satisfactory after finding a good model
> for tonality.
> The piece is now entirely in the tonic of D (as Beethoven wrote it).
> And if I may say so, it's sounding goood :)
> Let me know what you think!
>
> My JI transcription is here:
> http://sites.google.com/site/develdenet/mp3/Drei_Equale_No1_%28Tonal-JI%29.png
> It's very readable, I put the ratios next to the notes of the original
> score image.
>
> More files comming soon, including one where I play a D drone
> throughout the piece to show tonality.
>
> Marcel
> www.develde.net
>