50 seconds for 22 edo Brass and Piano

I've been studying Schoenberg (Op 19 which is pre-serialism) and Carl Ruggles recently.

This is my (first I think) contribution to Dan Sterns miniatures thread on Xenharmonic alliance and it is a bit reminiscent of Ruggles and Schoenberg except it is in 22 EDO.

http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano22brass-50-secs-4-22edo-brass-piano.mp3

I like this very much. Jazzy.

Oz.

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www.ozanyarman.com

On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:49 AM, christopherv wrote:

> I've been studying Schoenberg (Op 19 which is pre-serialism) and
> Carl Ruggles recently.
>
> This is my (first I think) contribution to Dan Sterns miniatures > thread on Xenharmonic alliance and it is a bit reminiscent of
> Ruggles and Schoenberg except it is in 22 EDO.
>
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano22brass-50-secs-4-22edo-brass-piano.mp3
>
>

Thank you for the listen and comment Oz, glad you enjoyed it!

Chris

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>wrote:

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> I like this very much. Jazzy.
>
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
>
>
> > Ruggles and Schoenberg except it is in 22 EDO.
> >
> >
> http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano22brass-50-secs-4-22edo-brass-piano.mp3
> >
> >
>
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To me, it has more a "20th century" sound, sure suiting the time of Schönberg (although I do not know the concrete pieces that inspired it). I like it, too!

Funny thing is, though, that in a way it does not sound that "microtonal" to me. (That may be my personal problem since my microtonal music tends to be that way, too...)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> I like this very much. Jazzy.
>
> Oz.
>
> ✩ ✩ ✩
> www.ozanyarman.com
>
> On Mar 17, 2010, at 5:49 AM, christopherv wrote:
>
> > I've been studying Schoenberg (Op 19 which is pre-serialism) and
> > Carl Ruggles recently.
> >
> > This is my (first I think) contribution to Dan Sterns miniatures
> > thread on Xenharmonic alliance and it is a bit reminiscent of
> > Ruggles and Schoenberg except it is in 22 EDO.
> >
> > http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano22brass-50-secs-4-22edo-brass-piano.mp3
> >
> >
>

Thanks for the listen and comment - here are some references to my
influences.

Schoenberg's op 19 (there is a midi of them here )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sechs_kleine_Klavierst%C3%BCcke

Carl Ruggles Angels

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-N9YbN5rI

And Marcel - if you are out there - *how* does one perform Angels in your JI
system?
I'm suspecting that it can't

Chris

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:35 AM, hstraub64 <straub@...> wrote:

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>
> To me, it has more a "20th century" sound, sure suiting the time of
> Schönberg (although I do not know the concrete pieces that inspired it). I
> like it, too!
>
> Funny thing is, though, that in a way it does not sound that "microtonal"
> to me. (That may be my personal problem since my microtonal music tends to
> be that way, too...)
>
>
> ---
>

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Chris -- I don't recall if I have commented on this piece or not --
but I did give it a listen and did like it. I also liked that
LucyTuned "Talking To God" thing. I wondered around your site some
and listened to other pieces as well. Overall, your music is one
example of a place I would point people to, to introduce them to
microtonal music that could appeal to the "commoner". Keep up the
good work!

Jay

Quoting "Chris Vaisvil" <chrisvaisvil@...>:

> Thanks for the listen and comment - here are some references to my
> influences.
>
> Schoenberg's op 19 (there is a midi of them here )
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sechs_kleine_Klavierst%C3%BCcke
>
> Carl Ruggles Angels
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-N9YbN5rI
>
> And Marcel - if you are out there - *how* does one perform Angels in your JI
> system?
> I'm suspecting that it can't
>
> Chris
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:35 AM, hstraub64 <straub@...> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> To me, it has more a "20th century" sound, sure suiting the time of
>> Schönberg (although I do not know the concrete pieces that inspired it). I
>> like it, too!
>>
>> Funny thing is, though, that in a way it does not sound that "microtonal"
>> to me. (That may be my personal problem since my microtonal music tends to
>> be that way, too...)
>>
>>
>> ---
>>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

Thank you Jay. I have been getting comments from people in 12 edo forums
that are about half positive - with occasional comments along the line that
Talking to God was out of tune to some - the responses were mixed - and as
the left / right channel version should the difference between Lucy tuning
and 12 edo isn't huge for the most part - that is puzzling.

Of course post to sites with mostly 12 edo composers is a tough venue - BUT
the regular consumer at say "The Sixtyone" rejected out of hand the Lucy
tuned Talking to God - and then embraced (for my standards there) the 12
EDO version. I'm still working on that site.

If you are interested you can read comments here

Lucy Tuned

http://www.traxinspace.com/song/45569

and here

12 EDO

http://www.traxinspace.com/song/45600

and here

Simultaneous LT and 12 edo

http://www.traxinspace.com/song/45608

and here: (Lucy Tuned only)

http://www.macjams.com/song/59487

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:32 PM, <jrinkel@...> wrote:

>
>
> Chris -- I don't recall if I have commented on this piece or not --
> but I did give it a listen and did like it. I also liked that
> LucyTuned "Talking To God" thing. I wondered around your site some
> and listened to other pieces as well. Overall, your music is one
> example of a place I would point people to, to introduce them to
> microtonal music that could appeal to the "commoner". Keep up the
> good work!
>
> Jay
>
>
>

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I analyzed this piece (50 seconds for 22 edo Brass and Piano)

Below is a scan of the piano roll output for the piano portion of the piece.

http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/mini-piano-roll.jpg

Really no surprise in my composition style in that I'm using a lot of open
harmonies and avoiding thirds.
There are some xen moments though.

Charles Lucy kindly provided the data I used to analyze the "score" - a scan
of that is below.

http://micro.soonlabel.com/22-ET/22edo-cents.jpg

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