Hello. What are the traditional tunings for Baglama and Gamelan?

I just thought I'd say hello since I'm new here. I make and play electric instruments, usually guitars and bass guitars. I have been making instruments with exchangable fretboards that allow tunings other than 12 note equal temperament since November 2008ce. I am interested in how other people make non 12et music, partly just to hear new sounds and partly so that I can find out how to make a wider variety of sounds myself.

Does anyone know how the frets on a baglama are tuned? (That is, to what pitches are they tuned?)
Does anyone know where to find examples of tunings of tradtitional Indonesian Gamelans?

IF anyone wants to check out my non 12 et music, the first 15 tracks on this website are all non 12 et:

http://www.soundclick.com/markbarnes

Sorry. That's the wrong link and I haven't worked out how to edit the first post.

The link should be to my profile on reverb nation
http://www.reverbnation.com/markbarnes

They're the same songs, but on reverb nation the first 15 are all non 12 et whereas on soundclick they're not organised that way.

At 01:53 PM 1/23/2010, you wrote:
>I just thought I'd say hello since I'm new here. I make and play
>electric instruments, usually guitars and bass guitars. I have been
>making instruments with exchangable fretboards that allow tunings
>other than 12 note equal temperament since November 2008ce. I am
>interested in how other people make non 12et music, partly just to
>hear new sounds and partly so that I can find out how to make a wider
>variety of sounds myself.
>
>Does anyone know how the frets on a baglama are tuned? (That is, to
>what pitches are they tuned?)
>Does anyone know where to find examples of tunings of tradtitional
>Indonesian Gamelans?
>
>IF anyone wants to check out my non 12 et music, the first 15 tracks
>on this website are all non 12 et:
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/markbarnes

I love it! The cynical humor is just what I need at the moment,
especially since I'm procrastinating housework as I write this.
I hope everyone here takes a moment to listen.

I'm afraid I don't know the fret tuning of the baglama, or even
if it's standardized. If it is, it should be a simple matter to
measure, even from a high-res photo perhaps. The wikipedia entry
claims they're fretted to a 15/oct JI scale, but only shows ratios
for the first 7 frets (are the others meant to be the inversions?)
and the citation returns a 404 error.

Gamelan tuning is controversial, largely because it is highly
unstandardized, with tunings differing from village to village or
instrument to instrument. But the approximate scale step patterns
of the two principle scale families, slendro and pelog, are known,
and probably any tuning of these steps is valid in some sense.
Bill Alves and Bill Sethares have both done field work and have
published books

http://books.google.com/books?id=JnM4IgAACAAJ

http://books.google.com/books?id=KChoKKhjOb0C

-Carl