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Gamma Elegy

🔗iranief <carlo@...>

11/12/2009 4:02:59 PM

This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon (the first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout for it thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html

🔗Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...>

11/12/2009 5:15:37 PM

As always, I like music that is ethereal and ominous. This one is
another excellent sort of that genre... until the guitar part comes
in... but it is suddenly reinforced with that eternal chorus once
again. However, I feel there is an unbalance with the instruments in
the middle of the piece.

Wendy Carlos's scales merit some re-investigating.

Oz.

✩ ✩ ✩
www.ozanyarman.com

On Nov 13, 2009, at 2:02 AM, iranief wrote:

> This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon
> (the first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
> What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout
> for it thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html
>

🔗Dante Rosati <danterosati@...>

11/12/2009 5:25:03 PM

rthe vocal melody that the guitar doubles is fantastic.

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM, iranief <carlo@...> wrote:

>
>
> This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon (the
> first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
> What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout for it
> thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html
>
>
>

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🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/13/2009 12:24:24 AM

We aim to please but can't please everyone!
:-)
Thanks for listening.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Ozan Yarman <ozanyarman@...> wrote:
>
> As always, I like music that is ethereal and ominous. This one is
> another excellent sort of that genre... until the guitar part comes
> in... but it is suddenly reinforced with that eternal chorus once
> again. However, I feel there is an unbalance with the instruments in
> the middle of the piece.
>

🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/13/2009 12:30:46 AM

Dante,
that melody has stuck in my head for days now!
I can't seem to be able to erase it from memory. In cases like this one I repeatedly try whistling "Donna Lee" by Charlie Parker and it usually does the trick (I forget the previous melody). It is not working on this one!!!
;-)
Thanks for listening!

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Dante Rosati <danterosati@...> wrote:
>
> rthe vocal melody that the guitar doubles is fantastic.
>

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

11/13/2009 10:31:59 AM

Omnisphere is a cool product. Which application of Jeff's
did you use?

-Carl

At 04:02 PM 11/12/2009, you wrote:
>This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon
>(the first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
>What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout for
>it thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
>http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
>http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html
>
>

🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/13/2009 3:02:56 PM

well...it's a remapper for isomorphic keyboards like Opal Chameleon or C-Thru Music Axis 64. It is not for sale yet. I guess I am a beta tester!
:-)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:
>
> Omnisphere is a cool product. Which application of Jeff's
> did you use?
>
> -Carl
>

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

11/14/2009 6:30:07 PM

Hey Carlo, this is really nice. I don't remember if I heard your other work, so I'm checking out your blog right now.

Also, since a chain of 20 major thirds bounded by a perfect fifth essentially produces Gamma, I think I'm going to go ahead and dub the ratio 1990656/1953125 the "Carlos comma" unless it already has been already.

~D. ���{> http://dannywier.ucoz.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "iranief" <carlo@...>
To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 12 November, 2009 18:02
Subject: [MMM] Gamma Elegy

> This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon > (the first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
> What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout for > it thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

11/14/2009 8:11:27 PM

The other thing that essentially produces gamma is 34-ET.
Gamma has 1193-cent octaves. If you stretch them to pure
you get 34-ET. -Carl

At 06:30 PM 11/14/2009, Danny wrote:
>Hey Carlo, this is really nice. I don't remember if I heard your other
>work, so I'm checking out your blog right now.
>
>Also, since a chain of 20 major thirds bounded by a perfect fifth
>essentially produces Gamma, I think I'm going to go ahead and dub the
>ratio 1990656/1953125 the "Carlos comma" unless it already has been
>already.
>
>~D. ¶¦¬{> http://dannywier.ucoz.com
>

🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/14/2009 11:42:38 PM

Hi Danny,
thanks!
I would have never thought of a "Carlos comma" (32.95158 cents) but you did! Good!
:-)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Danny Wier" <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Carlo, this is really nice. I don't remember if I heard your other
> work, so I'm checking out your blog right now.
>
> Also, since a chain of 20 major thirds bounded by a perfect fifth
> essentially produces Gamma, I think I'm going to go ahead and dub the
> ratio 1990656/1953125 the "Carlos comma" unless it already has been
> already.
>

🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/14/2009 11:47:21 PM

You are right but I really like playing with both compressed (1193) and stretched (1228) octaves!

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <carl@...> wrote:
>
> The other thing that essentially produces gamma is 34-ET.
> Gamma has 1193-cent octaves. If you stretch them to pure
> you get 34-ET. -Carl

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

11/17/2009 9:26:58 PM

This is beautiful. This might be my favorite piece of microtonal music in
the world.

-Mike

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM, iranief <carlo@seraph.it> wrote:

>
>
> This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon (the
> first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
> What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout for it
> thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

11/17/2009 9:32:04 PM

Although, to add to my last comment... I think this stands on its own right
as a beautiful piece of music, not just a demonstration of theoretical
ideas. This piece evokes all kinds of feelings and imagery, some quite
unfamiliar due to its surprisingly intuitive use of xenharmonic chords... To
give it a name like Gamma Elegy seems only to detract from what it really
is, which is a highly expressive and well written piece of music.

This piece is really beautiful, and if you don't mind, I'll be spreading
this around on Facebook.

-Mike

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM, iranief <carlo@...> wrote:

>
>
> This piece is the second one I have composed using my Opal Chameleon (the
> first one is Chameleon In The Dark).
> What's new is that I have used a completely different note layout for it
> thanks to an application created by X.J.Scott.
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/GammaElegy.mp3
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-tuning-theory.html
>
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/17/2009 11:51:51 PM

Mike,
thanks! I have to say it's misleading to say that it is a "well written piece of music" because it's mostly improvised. The first part had been there sitting for awhile waiting for some development that wasn't coming. Then, for some mysterious reason, I started using that guitar sample and everything started making sense. The third part is a finale I added to have the 2 main instruments (choir and guitar) play a variation of the previous guitar theme in the style of the first part.
I feel to have only scratched the surface of Carlos Gamma tuning system but I will persist!
Sometimes I feel discouraged by the tantalizing efforts this tuning system requires to come up with something sounding like music but comments like yours help me not giving up. Thanks again!
:-)
Carlo

p.s.
go ahead with Facebook and let me know.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> Although, to add to my last comment... I think this stands on its own right
> as a beautiful piece of music, not just a demonstration of theoretical
> ideas. This piece evokes all kinds of feelings and imagery, some quite
> unfamiliar due to its surprisingly intuitive use of xenharmonic chords... To
> give it a name like Gamma Elegy seems only to detract from what it really
> is, which is a highly expressive and well written piece of music.
>
> This piece is really beautiful, and if you don't mind, I'll be spreading
> this around on Facebook.
>
> -Mike

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

11/17/2009 11:58:13 PM

Was the guitar a sample? It sounded real to me... What sample library
are you using?

-Mike

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Carlo <carlo@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Mike,
> thanks! I have to say it's misleading to say that it is a "well written piece of music" because it's mostly improvised. The first part had been there sitting for awhile waiting for some development that wasn't coming. Then, for some mysterious reason, I started using that guitar sample and everything started making sense. The third part is a finale I added to have the 2 main instruments (choir and guitar) play a variation of the previous guitar theme in the style of the first part.
> I feel to have only scratched the surface of Carlos Gamma tuning system but I will persist!
> Sometimes I feel discouraged by the tantalizing efforts this tuning system requires to come up with something sounding like music but comments like yours help me not giving up. Thanks again!
> :-)
> Carlo
>
> p.s.
> go ahead with Facebook and let me know.
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
> >
> > Although, to add to my last comment... I think this stands on its own right
> > as a beautiful piece of music, not just a demonstration of theoretical
> > ideas. This piece evokes all kinds of feelings and imagery, some quite
> > unfamiliar due to its surprisingly intuitive use of xenharmonic chords... To
> > give it a name like Gamma Elegy seems only to detract from what it really
> > is, which is a highly expressive and well written piece of music.
> >
> > This piece is really beautiful, and if you don't mind, I'll be spreading
> > this around on Facebook.
> >
> > -Mike
>
>

🔗Carlo <carlo@...>

11/18/2009 1:59:52 AM

Spectrasonics Omnisphere!
:-)

- C

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> Was the guitar a sample? It sounded real to me... What sample library
> are you using?
>
> -Mike