Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup makemicromusic new preludes in 14ET and 16ET

For your listening pleasure:

Prelude in 14ET
Prelude in 16ET

Direct links to mp3s:
<http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
<http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>

These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
<http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>

Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.

Enjoy!
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
</tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and participate.
Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>

🔗dasdasdva <dasdasdva@...>

Thanks Aaron,
I always dig your alt-ET Bachs
And your fearlessness at eights and sixteens and elevens and fourteens
and while i think there's an honest argument to made that it is more out of tune standard counterpoint than it is other more private things
I always find myself more impressed than I'd think I should or would be given the recourses and the context
and that's a strong testament to something of you, no?
anyway, please, keep up the good work----->FWiW, I personally preferred the 14 here by a good (micro) measure
daniel
--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> For your listening pleasure:
>
> Prelude in 14ET
> Prelude in 16ET
>
> Direct links to mp3s:
> <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
> <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>
>
> These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
> <http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>
>
> Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.
>
> Enjoy!
> Aaron
> =====
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>
> Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things
> H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
> </tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
> and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and
> participate.
> Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
> Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>
>

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@...>

Thanks a lot, Daniel!

I agree 14 edges out 16 aesthetically. I struggled a little with
the material for the 16 piece; it started in 4/4 originally and
it felt too square so I changed it to 7/8, which I like better
but it still feels somehow less rewarding than I'd like. So,
I plan to write a better fugue to follow that prelude.

BTW, I meant to say I really dug your insane lapsteel improv.
It reminded me of the guitar from that piece you did (I think)
back in 2000 called Day Walks In, if I have your name right
(dasdasdva has me flummoxed). Anyway, it's great stuff!

Yours,
AAH
=====

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "dasdasdva" <dasdasdva@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Aaron,
> I always dig your alt-ET Bachs
> And your fearlessness at eights and sixteens and elevens and fourteens
> and while i think there's an honest argument to made that it is more out of tune standard counterpoint than it is other more private things
> I always find myself more impressed than I'd think I should or would be given the recourses and the context
> and that's a strong testament to something of you, no?
> anyway, please, keep up the good work----->FWiW, I personally preferred the 14 here by a good (micro) measure
> daniel
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > For your listening pleasure:
> >
> > Prelude in 14ET
> > Prelude in 16ET
> >
> > Direct links to mp3s:
> > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
> > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>
> >
> > These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
> > <http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>
> >
> > Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.
> >
> > Enjoy!
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> > Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things
> > H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
> > </tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
> > and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and
> > participate.
> > Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
> > Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>
> >
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

Heya 'other' Aaron,

I enjoyed these a lot. Although I also prefer a non-Bach style for such tunings, I think these are fun, and show your great understanding and facility with really nailing the neo-Bach style. Also enjoyed the little anachronistic jazz/blues licks occasionally tossed in there!

-AKJ

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot, Daniel!
>
> I agree 14 edges out 16 aesthetically. I struggled a little with
> the material for the 16 piece; it started in 4/4 originally and
> it felt too square so I changed it to 7/8, which I like better
> but it still feels somehow less rewarding than I'd like. So,
> I plan to write a better fugue to follow that prelude.
>
> BTW, I meant to say I really dug your insane lapsteel improv.
> It reminded me of the guitar from that piece you did (I think)
> back in 2000 called Day Walks In, if I have your name right
> (dasdasdva has me flummoxed). Anyway, it's great stuff!
>
> Yours,
> AAH
> =====
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "dasdasdva" <dasdasdva@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Aaron,
> > I always dig your alt-ET Bachs
> > And your fearlessness at eights and sixteens and elevens and fourteens
> > and while i think there's an honest argument to made that it is more out of tune standard counterpoint than it is other more private things
> > I always find myself more impressed than I'd think I should or would be given the recourses and the context
> > and that's a strong testament to something of you, no?
> > anyway, please, keep up the good work----->FWiW, I personally preferred the 14 here by a good (micro) measure
> > daniel
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > For your listening pleasure:
> > >
> > > Prelude in 14ET
> > > Prelude in 16ET
> > >
> > > Direct links to mp3s:
> > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
> > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>
> > >
> > > These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
> > > <http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>
> > >
> > > Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > > Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things
> > > H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
> > > </tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
> > > and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and
> > > participate.
> > > Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
> > > Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>
> > >
> >
>

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@...>

Thanks, AKJ. 16ET has a great 'sharp nine' chord which
I used a lot, and I couldn't resist throwing in some blues
because it sounded right to me. I've also been fiddling
with 18ET, which I think has an even more bluesy feel,
but I'm having even more trouble getting solid material
for a piece in 18 - right now I've got plenty of little ideas
which don't connect the way I want them to. But that's
up next anyway when I get around to it.
Cheers,
AAH
=====

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@...> wrote:
>
> Heya 'other' Aaron,
>
> I enjoyed these a lot. Although I also prefer a non-Bach style for such tunings, I think these are fun, and show your great understanding and facility with really nailing the neo-Bach style. Also enjoyed the little anachronistic jazz/blues licks occasionally tossed in there!
>
> -AKJ
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Daniel!
> >
> > I agree 14 edges out 16 aesthetically. I struggled a little with
> > the material for the 16 piece; it started in 4/4 originally and
> > it felt too square so I changed it to 7/8, which I like better
> > but it still feels somehow less rewarding than I'd like. So,
> > I plan to write a better fugue to follow that prelude.
> >
> > BTW, I meant to say I really dug your insane lapsteel improv.
> > It reminded me of the guitar from that piece you did (I think)
> > back in 2000 called Day Walks In, if I have your name right
> > (dasdasdva has me flummoxed). Anyway, it's great stuff!
> >
> > Yours,
> > AAH
> > =====
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "dasdasdva" <dasdasdva@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Aaron,
> > > I always dig your alt-ET Bachs
> > > And your fearlessness at eights and sixteens and elevens and fourteens
> > > and while i think there's an honest argument to made that it is more out of tune standard counterpoint than it is other more private things
> > > I always find myself more impressed than I'd think I should or would be given the recourses and the context
> > > and that's a strong testament to something of you, no?
> > > anyway, please, keep up the good work----->FWiW, I personally preferred the 14 here by a good (micro) measure
> > > daniel
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For your listening pleasure:
> > > >
> > > > Prelude in 14ET
> > > > Prelude in 16ET
> > > >
> > > > Direct links to mp3s:
> > > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
> > > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>
> > > >
> > > > These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
> > > > <http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>
> > > >
> > > > Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > > Aaron
> > > > =====
> > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > >
> > > > Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things
> > > > H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
> > > > </tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
> > > > and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and
> > > > participate.
> > > > Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
> > > > Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

🔗dasdasdva <dasdasdva@...>

hello there aaron, just curious---->have you archived all your sort of "alt-ET Bachs" anywhere?
thanks. daniel
--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot, Daniel!
>
> I agree 14 edges out 16 aesthetically. I struggled a little with
> the material for the 16 piece; it started in 4/4 originally and
> it felt too square so I changed it to 7/8, which I like better
> but it still feels somehow less rewarding than I'd like. So,
> I plan to write a better fugue to follow that prelude.
>
> BTW, I meant to say I really dug your insane lapsteel improv.
> It reminded me of the guitar from that piece you did (I think)
> back in 2000 called Day Walks In, if I have your name right
> (dasdasdva has me flummoxed). Anyway, it's great stuff!
>
> Yours,
> AAH
> =====
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "dasdasdva" <dasdasdva@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Aaron,
> > I always dig your alt-ET Bachs
> > And your fearlessness at eights and sixteens and elevens and fourteens
> > and while i think there's an honest argument to made that it is more out of tune standard counterpoint than it is other more private things
> > I always find myself more impressed than I'd think I should or would be given the recourses and the context
> > and that's a strong testament to something of you, no?
> > anyway, please, keep up the good work----->FWiW, I personally preferred the 14 here by a good (micro) measure
> > daniel
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > For your listening pleasure:
> > >
> > > Prelude in 14ET
> > > Prelude in 16ET
> > >
> > > Direct links to mp3s:
> > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
> > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>
> > >
> > > These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
> > > <http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>
> > >
> > > Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.
> > >
> > > Enjoy!
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > > Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things
> > > H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
> > > </tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
> > > and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and
> > > participate.
> > > Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
> > > Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>
> > >
> >
>

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@...>

I just have MIDI and mp3 files here:
<http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "dasdasdva" <dasdasdva@...> wrote:
>
> hello there aaron, just curious---->have you archived all your sort of "alt-ET Bachs" anywhere?
> thanks. daniel
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks a lot, Daniel!
> >
> > I agree 14 edges out 16 aesthetically. I struggled a little with
> > the material for the 16 piece; it started in 4/4 originally and
> > it felt too square so I changed it to 7/8, which I like better
> > but it still feels somehow less rewarding than I'd like. So,
> > I plan to write a better fugue to follow that prelude.
> >
> > BTW, I meant to say I really dug your insane lapsteel improv.
> > It reminded me of the guitar from that piece you did (I think)
> > back in 2000 called Day Walks In, if I have your name right
> > (dasdasdva has me flummoxed). Anyway, it's great stuff!
> >
> > Yours,
> > AAH
> > =====
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "dasdasdva" <dasdasdva@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Aaron,
> > > I always dig your alt-ET Bachs
> > > And your fearlessness at eights and sixteens and elevens and fourteens
> > > and while i think there's an honest argument to made that it is more out of tune standard counterpoint than it is other more private things
> > > I always find myself more impressed than I'd think I should or would be given the recourses and the context
> > > and that's a strong testament to something of you, no?
> > > anyway, please, keep up the good work----->FWiW, I personally preferred the 14 here by a good (micro) measure
> > > daniel
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > For your listening pleasure:
> > > >
> > > > Prelude in 14ET
> > > > Prelude in 16ET
> > > >
> > > > Direct links to mp3s:
> > > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/14ETPrelude.mp3>
> > > > <http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/16ETPrelude.mp3>
> > > >
> > > > These are part of the Equal Tempered Keyboard project:
> > > > <http://www.h-pi.com/musicFiles.html>
> > > >
> > > > Sorry these new mp3's are a bit noisy.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy!
> > > > Aaron
> > > > =====
> > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > >
> > > > Please note that I choose not to be involved in discussions of things
> > > > H-Pi related outside of the H-Pi forums,
> > > > </tuning/topicId_unknown.html#74905>
> > > > and I cordially invite everyone who is interested to please join and
> > > > participate.
> > > > Forum: <http://www.h-pi.com/phpBB2/>
> > > > Blog: <http://www.h-pi.com/wordpress/>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

Aaron Andrew,

Have you ever considered non-narrative, collage, or non-sequitur forms? If the material itself is compelling, why not? It worked for Stravinsky! (For example "Symphonies of Winds")....or an extreme example would be John Zorn.

I would think that "strange tunings" like 18 invite such "dream-logic" thinking, and I tend to think that this is the way to go for such tunings anyway. I would be willing to bet that you would do something quite good in that manner of thinking, even if you haven't already played around with such ideas or were aesthetically disinclined to them.

-AKJ

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
I've also been fiddling
> with 18ET, which I think has an even more bluesy feel,
> but I'm having even more trouble getting solid material
> for a piece in 18 - right now I've got plenty of little ideas
> which don't connect the way I want them to.

🔗dasdasdva <dasdasdva@...>

hello there aaron (johnson).I would actually have to respectfully disagree with this in that it seems to me that your imagination either embraces something like a "dream-logic" thinking or it doesn't, and tunings actually have very little to do with it....in fact, i'd even go so far as to say that music itself actually has very little to do with it. Yes, the imagination needs nourishment and impetus and there all things are open for interpretation and i guess it would seem logical enough that a "weird" or "strange" tuning might be better suited for that purpose than their opposites, but only marginally so at best i'd say. It seems to me that these kind of off-the-map places are the province of the imagination and your ability to express its overtures. daniel

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@...> wrote:
>
> Aaron Andrew,
>
> Have you ever considered non-narrative, collage, or non-sequitur forms? If the material itself is compelling, why not? It worked for Stravinsky! (For example "Symphonies of Winds")....or an extreme example would be John Zorn.
>
> I would think that "strange tunings" like 18 invite such "dream-logic" thinking, and I tend to think that this is the way to go for such tunings anyway. I would be willing to bet that you would do something quite good in that manner of thinking, even if you haven't already played around with such ideas or were aesthetically disinclined to them.
>
> -AKJ
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> I've also been fiddling
> > with 18ET, which I think has an even more bluesy feel,
> > but I'm having even more trouble getting solid material
> > for a piece in 18 - right now I've got plenty of little ideas
> > which don't connect the way I want them to.
>

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aaronhunt@...>

AKJ!

I think this is quite a personal thing (as composing music is
such a very personal thing) and there are so many different ways
one can go, perhaps especially with unfamiliar tunings, that all I
can say is I am choosing a very practical approach for myself
with these pieces, because I don't have much time and I need to
get results fast, and because I have already worked very hard to
develop a certain technique with counterpoint and I enjoy it a lot,
I can get some ideas together and make music quickly this way.
But I have to say yes, I have thought about many possibilities for
composing with all these tunings, and the potentialities boggle
my mind. I have considered maybe if I become a bit bored with
the Bach style pieces (not likely) I might try a collection of works
which intentionally explore all of the alien characteristics of the
tunings rather than the strangely familiar ones. Suffice it to say
that composing music is very hard work, and composing music
that requires digging for something rather than applying well
practiced technique is *extremely* hard work. It is all very time
consuming, and if there is one thing in life I wish I had more of,
it is definitely time!

It does occur to me as well, that since you suggested the idea
for composing in such a way, it could be that you are the one
who should write such music!

I hope you write some more anyway, whatever it will be,
because I enjoy your music : )

Cheers,
AAH
=====

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

Good thoughts, Aaron.

I wish I had more time and energy to compose. The few times lately I actually had a moment, I felt exhausted or uninspired!

It comes in fits with me, alas!

Best,
The other Aaron

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> AKJ!
>
> I think this is quite a personal thing (as composing music is
> such a very personal thing) and there are so many different ways
> one can go, perhaps especially with unfamiliar tunings, that all I
> can say is I am choosing a very practical approach for myself
> with these pieces, because I don't have much time and I need to
> get results fast, and because I have already worked very hard to
> develop a certain technique with counterpoint and I enjoy it a lot,
> I can get some ideas together and make music quickly this way.
> But I have to say yes, I have thought about many possibilities for
> composing with all these tunings, and the potentialities boggle
> my mind. I have considered maybe if I become a bit bored with
> the Bach style pieces (not likely) I might try a collection of works
> which intentionally explore all of the alien characteristics of the
> tunings rather than the strangely familiar ones. Suffice it to say
> that composing music is very hard work, and composing music
> that requires digging for something rather than applying well
> practiced technique is *extremely* hard work. It is all very time
> consuming, and if there is one thing in life I wish I had more of,
> it is definitely time!
>
> It does occur to me as well, that since you suggested the idea
> for composing in such a way, it could be that you are the one
> who should write such music!
>
> I hope you write some more anyway, whatever it will be,
> because I enjoy your music : )
>
> Cheers,
> AAH
> =====
>
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@> wrote:
> >
> > Aaron Andrew,
> >
> > Have you ever considered non-narrative, collage, or non-sequitur forms? If the material itself is compelling, why not? It worked for Stravinsky! (For example "Symphonies of Winds")....or an extreme example would be John Zorn.
> >
> > I would think that "strange tunings" like 18 invite such "dream-logic" thinking, and I tend to think that this is the way to go for such tunings anyway. I would be willing to bet that you would do something quite good in that manner of thinking, even if you haven't already played around with such ideas or were aesthetically disinclined to them.
> >
> > -AKJ
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > >
> > I've also been fiddling
> > > with 18ET, which I think has an even more bluesy feel,
> > > but I'm having even more trouble getting solid material
> > > for a piece in 18 - right now I've got plenty of little ideas
> > > which don't connect the way I want them to.
> >
>