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🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/23/2008 1:14:54 AM

This MetaSlendro piece is quite in progress. an experiment in a long meter=108. Klangfarbenmelodie derived from some manipulations of Wilson Horograms using MOS patterns applied to rhythm. This as outline in previous papers informed by David Canwright original use of fibonacci patterns but now including bilevel MOS patterns not discussed there. The recording is samples of my own instruments as a further experiment in working and really not for final consumption and just an idea. Much is limited by that medium. Since i expect this not to surface in the future for quite a while I thought some might find it somewhat fun. How it is!
http://anaphoria.com/GendhingCanwright.mp3
/**/
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/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

9/23/2008 1:45:57 AM

Tantalizing. I wonder if it will be extended just in terms
of length or in terms of voices being added or... best of luck.
-Carl

At 01:14 AM 9/23/2008, you wrote:
>This MetaSlendro piece is quite in progress. an experiment in a long
>meter=108. Klangfarbenmelodie derived from some manipulations of
>Wilson Horograms using MOS patterns applied to rhythm. This as outline
>in previous papers informed by David Canwright original use of fibonacci
>patterns but now including bilevel MOS patterns not discussed there.
>The recording is samples of my own instruments as a further experiment
>in working and really not for final consumption and just an idea. Much
>is limited by that medium. Since i expect this not to surface in the
>future for quite a while I thought some might find it somewhat fun. How
>it is!
>http://anaphoria.com/GendhingCanwright.mp3
>/**/
>--
>

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/23/2008 2:02:51 AM

you appreciate the inherent problems. there is much than can be expanded herein with even these three main ones (doubling for one) but to do so without undermining of the line traveling through all the voices is the delicate thing. The final touches cannot happen till one knows what will be available, probably winds and or organ. Variation in the drums will have to happen last.

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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Carl Lumma wrote:
>
> Tantalizing. I wonder if it will be extended just in terms
> of length or in terms of voices being added or... best of luck.
> -Carl
>
> At 01:14 AM 9/23/2008, you wrote:
> >This MetaSlendro piece is quite in progress. an experiment in a long
> >meter=108. Klangfarbenmelodie derived from some manipulations of
> >Wilson Horograms using MOS patterns applied to rhythm. This as outline
> >in previous papers informed by David Canwright original use of fibonacci
> >patterns but now including bilevel MOS patterns not discussed there.
> >The recording is samples of my own instruments as a further experiment
> >in working and really not for final consumption and just an idea. Much
> >is limited by that medium. Since i expect this not to surface in the
> >future for quite a while I thought some might find it somewhat fun. How
> >it is!
> >http://anaphoria.com/GendhingCanwright.mp3 > <http://anaphoria.com/GendhingCanwright.mp3>
> >/**/
> >--
> >
>
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

9/23/2008 11:01:37 AM

Hypnotic!

-A.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>
> This MetaSlendro piece is quite in progress. an experiment in a long
> meter=108. Klangfarbenmelodie derived from some manipulations of
> Wilson Horograms using MOS patterns applied to rhythm. This as outline
> in previous papers informed by David Canwright original use of
fibonacci
> patterns but now including bilevel MOS patterns not discussed there.
> The recording is samples of my own instruments as a further experiment
> in working and really not for final consumption and just an idea. Much
> is limited by that medium. Since i expect this not to surface in the
> future for quite a while I thought some might find it somewhat fun. How
> it is!
> http://anaphoria.com/GendhingCanwright.mp3
> /**/
> --
>
>
> /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
>
> _'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
>
> ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
>

🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

9/23/2008 3:48:46 PM

A reed organ or harmonium would be very nice.

Really nice, Kraig! I just want it to keep going so I can hear the patterns unfold.

- Dave

Kraig Grady wrote:
> you appreciate the inherent problems. there is much than can be > expanded herein with even these three main ones (doubling for one) but > to do so without undermining of the line traveling through all the > voices is the delicate thing. The final touches cannot happen till one > knows what will be available, probably winds and or organ. Variation in > the drums will have to happen last.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/23/2008 4:27:26 PM

Thanks Dave!
That would be the next logical choice being I have it. The funny thing about reed organs i have found is that they speak slowly and in rhythmic pieces it can sound like the person is behind the beat. It can drive me crazy. But i was planning to give it a try later on and see if i can cover up the attacks to have it work.

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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Dave Seidel wrote:
>
> A reed organ or harmonium would be very nice.
>
> Really nice, Kraig! I just want it to keep going so I can hear the
> patterns unfold.
>
> - Dave
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > you appreciate the inherent problems. there is much than can be
> > expanded herein with even these three main ones (doubling for one) but
> > to do so without undermining of the line traveling through all the
> > voices is the delicate thing. The final touches cannot happen till one
> > knows what will be available, probably winds and or organ. Variation in
> > the drums will have to happen last.
>
>

🔗Dave Seidel <dave@...>

9/23/2008 5:11:27 PM

That's a good point, certainly for many reed organs. Many harmoniums, though, have a quick response, just think of all that nimble Qawwali.

- Dave

Kraig Grady wrote:
> Thanks Dave!
> That would be the next logical choice being I have it. The funny > thing about reed organs i have found is that they speak slowly and in > rhythmic pieces it can sound like the person is behind the beat. It can > drive me crazy. But i was planning to give it a try later on and see if > i can cover up the attacks to have it work.
> > > /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: > North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
> > _'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
> > ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/23/2008 5:52:07 PM

Thanks for the suggestion -if only i had one of these too! Mine has 4 octaves and quite a bit of volume which i guess is the trade off. It can be done just with care though!

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

Dave Seidel wrote:
>
> That's a good point, certainly for many reed organs. Many harmoniums,
> though, have a quick response, just think of all that nimble Qawwali.
>
> - Dave
>
> Kraig Grady wrote:
> > Thanks Dave!
> > That would be the next logical choice being I have it. The funny
> > thing about reed organs i have found is that they speak slowly and in
> > rhythmic pieces it can sound like the person is behind the beat. It can
> > drive me crazy. But i was planning to give it a try later on and see if
> > i can cover up the attacks to have it work.
> >
> >
> > /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
> > Mesotonal Music from:
> > _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> > North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/ > <http://anaphoria.com/>>
> >
> > _'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> > Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria > <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/ > <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>>
> >
> > ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
>
>

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

9/26/2008 10:46:09 AM

One might consider it part of the correct technique of an instrument
that speaks slowly to play a calculated amount ahead of the beat...

then there is the possibility of using samples, since that what you
are doing already with the other instruments. No problem lining up
samples!

-A

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks Dave!
> That would be the next logical choice being I have it. The funny
> thing about reed organs i have found is that they speak slowly and in
> rhythmic pieces it can sound like the person is behind the beat. It can
> drive me crazy. But i was planning to give it a try later on and see if
> i can cover up the attacks to have it work.
>
>
> /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
>
> _'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
>
> ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
>
>
>
>
> Dave Seidel wrote:
> >
> > A reed organ or harmonium would be very nice.
> >
> > Really nice, Kraig! I just want it to keep going so I can hear the
> > patterns unfold.
> >
> > - Dave
> >
> > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > you appreciate the inherent problems. there is much than can be
> > > expanded herein with even these three main ones (doubling for
one) but
> > > to do so without undermining of the line traveling through all the
> > > voices is the delicate thing. The final touches cannot happen
till one
> > > knows what will be available, probably winds and or organ.
Variation in
> > > the drums will have to happen last.
> >
> >
>

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

9/26/2008 10:53:41 AM

At 10:46 AM 9/26/2008, you wrote:
>One might consider it part of the correct technique of an instrument
>that speaks slowly to play a calculated amount ahead of the beat...

Ever play a carillon? Trippy!

-Carl

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/26/2008 2:03:26 PM

Others as well as myself have tried to play ahead but that doesn't seem to work in a live situation . The best solution seems to double the attack with another instrument or line it up to attacks already taking place or to have it not try to articulate rhythm at all. While this is built with samples, it is only to work things out for a live performance. The sampler does not cut off when you release the note so the effect of damping a bar i cannot do here at least easily, much less change mallets . the two vibraphones i can only pan differently to try to create that .

It has been years when i have worked on any larger piece without a deadline, which gives me way too many options to try out at each step. I don't like it :), but I was hoping on exhausting this way of using the Horograms rhythmically although there already there is two approaches i won't be able to do here but i leave that to much later. The piece has already changed quite a bit as well as extending it into areas not so predicted by what went before.

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
>
> One might consider it part of the correct technique of an instrument
> that speaks slowly to play a calculated amount ahead of the beat...
>
> then there is the possibility of using samples, since that what you
> are doing already with the other instruments. No problem lining up
> samples!
>
> -A
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, Kraig Grady > <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Dave!
> > That would be the next logical choice being I have it. The funny
> > thing about reed organs i have found is that they speak slowly and in
> > rhythmic pieces it can sound like the person is behind the beat. It can
> > drive me crazy. But i was planning to give it a try later on and see if
> > i can cover up the attacks to have it work.
> >
> >
> > /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
> > Mesotonal Music from:
> > _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> > North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/ > <http://anaphoria.com/>>
> >
> > _'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> > Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria > <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/ > <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>>
> >
> > ',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave Seidel wrote:
> > >
> > > A reed organ or harmonium would be very nice.
> > >
> > > Really nice, Kraig! I just want it to keep going so I can hear the
> > > patterns unfold.
> > >
> > > - Dave
> > >
> > > Kraig Grady wrote:
> > > > you appreciate the inherent problems. there is much than can be
> > > > expanded herein with even these three main ones (doubling for
> one) but
> > > > to do so without undermining of the line traveling through all the
> > > > voices is the delicate thing. The final touches cannot happen
> till one
> > > > knows what will be available, probably winds and or organ.
> Variation in
> > > > the drums will have to happen last.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>