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7edo Dance

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/1/2008 12:42:35 AM

7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave" tuning system (see my
blog for more informations).

http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html

🔗Doctor Oakroot <doctor@...>

9/1/2008 7:01:09 AM

I like it. You can definitely hear the progression - which surprised me. I
expected a small EDO to sound more uniform.

> 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave"
> tuning system (see my
> blog for more informations).
>
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
>
>

--
http://DoctorOakroot.com - Rough-edged songs on quirky homemade guitars.
~ Shroud for the Dead ~ available at http://cdbaby.com/cd/droakroot7

🔗Bill Sethares <sethares@...>

9/1/2008 8:36:11 AM

Nice piece Carlo -- I've always been attracted to the small-edo
tunings because they are easy and fun to work with.
Here's a piece based on a "seven line chant" called the "Seven Tone
Prayer"

http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~sethares/SevenTonePrayer.mp3

also in 7-edo.

-- Bill Sethares

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Doctor Oakroot" <doctor@...>
wrote:
>
> I like it. You can definitely hear the progression - which
surprised me. I
> expected a small EDO to sound more uniform.
>
> > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the
Octave"
> > tuning system (see my
> > blog for more informations).
> >
> > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> http://DoctorOakroot.com - Rough-edged songs on quirky homemade
guitars.
> ~ Shroud for the Dead ~ available at http://cdbaby.com/cd/droakroot7
>

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/1/2008 12:15:41 PM

Thanks Doctor Oakroot
the progression is a very simple I IV V I but yes, you can definitely hear it!
:-)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Doctor Oakroot" <doctor@...> wrote:
>
> I like it. You can definitely hear the progression - which surprised me. I
> expected a small EDO to sound more uniform.
>
> > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave"
> > tuning system (see my
> > blog for more informations).
> >
> > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> http://DoctorOakroot.com - Rough-edged songs on quirky homemade guitars.
> ~ Shroud for the Dead ~ available at http://cdbaby.com/cd/droakroot7
>

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/1/2008 12:22:05 PM

Thanks Bill
you are right, 7edo is easy and fun. the fact that an octave (7 steps) fits in a fifth (7 keys of
a standard keyboard) helps a lot!
Your "Seven Tone Prayer" sounds very nice too!
:-)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Sethares" <sethares@...> wrote:
>
>
> Nice piece Carlo -- I've always been attracted to the small-edo
> tunings because they are easy and fun to work with.
> Here's a piece based on a "seven line chant" called the "Seven Tone
> Prayer"
>
> http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~sethares/SevenTonePrayer.mp3
>
> also in 7-edo.
>
> -- Bill Sethares
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Doctor Oakroot" <doctor@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I like it. You can definitely hear the progression - which
> surprised me. I
> > expected a small EDO to sound more uniform.
> >
> > > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the
> Octave"
> > > tuning system (see my
> > > blog for more informations).
> > >
> > > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://DoctorOakroot.com - Rough-edged songs on quirky homemade
> guitars.
> > ~ Shroud for the Dead ~ available at http://cdbaby.com/cd/droakroot7
> >
>

🔗aum <aum@...>

9/1/2008 4:13:07 PM

I have the same experience you described in your blog. After some time of working in 7edo, it souded so "normal" to me that I had to play 12edo to be able to notice the 7edo xentonality again.
The mapping on 7 white keys with familiar meaning helps a lot. I call the 7edo "tempered diatonic" for myself. I love the "symmetry" of the tuning and the neutral character of triads.
Milan

Carlo Serafini wrote:
> 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave" tuning system (see my > blog for more informations).
>
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html >

🔗jrinkel@...

9/1/2008 5:40:13 PM

This piece is quite cool! Very good!

Jay

Quoting Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>:

> 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave"
> tuning system (see my
> blog for more informations).
>
> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
>
>

🔗Chris Vaisvil <chrisvaisvil@...>

9/1/2008 5:41:58 PM

I agree - I let it run in the background for about an hour.

Makes me want to try my hand at 7 EDO

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:40 PM, <jrinkel@...> wrote:

> This piece is quite cool! Very good!
>
> Jay
>
> Quoting Carlo Serafini <carlo@... <carlo%40seraph.it>>:
>
> > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave"
> > tuning system (see my
> > blog for more informations).
> >
> > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> >
> >
>
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

9/1/2008 8:15:31 PM

Carlo Serafini wrote:

>> 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave" tuning system (see my >> blog for more informations).
>>
>> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
>> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
>> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html >> This is making me want to write something in 7-equal; thanks! (I've messed around with 7- and 5-tone, but never finished a serious work a "macrotonal" tuning.)

I also liked the rhythm of this tune, with the sparse downbeats and heavy syncopation. I've always been into funk, funk-rock, funk-metal, jazz-funk and so on, which explains a lot why bass is my favorite instrument.

~D.

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/1/2008 11:58:52 PM

Hi Milan
I did not map the 7 steps of the scale to 7 white keys (it did not even occur to me!) but to
the 7 contiguous keys of my master keyboard. To me this scale has some kind of
myxolydian flavour (with neutral thirds), that's the reason why, I think, it sounds "familiar".

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, aum <aum@...> wrote:
>
> I have the same experience you described in your blog. After some time
> of working in 7edo, it souded so "normal" to me that I had to play 12edo
> to be able to notice the 7edo xentonality again.
> The mapping on 7 white keys with familiar meaning helps a lot. I call
> the 7edo "tempered diatonic" for myself. I love the "symmetry" of the
> tuning and the neutral character of triads.
> Milan
>
> Carlo Serafini wrote:
> > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave" tuning system
(see my
> > blog for more informations).
> >
> > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> >
>

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/2/2008 12:00:09 AM

Thank Jay
I appreciate that!
:-)
--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, jrinkel@... wrote:
>
> This piece is quite cool! Very good!
>
> Jay
>
> Quoting Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>:
>
> > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave"
> > tuning system (see my
> > blog for more informations).
> >
> > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> >
> >
>

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/2/2008 12:08:41 AM

Thanks Chris
:-))

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Vaisvil" <chrisvaisvil@...> wrote:
>
> I agree - I let it run in the background for about an hour.
>
> Makes me want to try my hand at 7 EDO
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 8:40 PM, <jrinkel@...> wrote:
>
> > This piece is quite cool! Very good!
> >
> > Jay
> >
> > Quoting Carlo Serafini <carlo@... <carlo%40seraph.it>>:
> >
> > > 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave"
> > > tuning system (see my
> > > blog for more informations).
> > >
> > > http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> > > http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> > > http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/2/2008 12:21:11 AM

Thanks Danny
the rhythm is done with a single, 8 bars long, loop of Reason's Dr:Rex copied and pasted
(each copy randomized), with LFO assigned to pan (as you can see from the picture on my
blog).

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Danny Wier <dawiertx@...> wrote:
>
> Carlo Serafini wrote:
>
> >> 7EDO Dance is a simple study of "7 steps Equal Division of the Octave" tuning
system (see my
> >> blog for more informations).
> >>
> >> http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/7edo%20dance.mp3
> >> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/7edo
> >> http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/category-music.html
> >>
>
> This is making me want to write something in 7-equal; thanks! (I've
> messed around with 7- and 5-tone, but never finished a serious work a
> "macrotonal" tuning.)
>
> I also liked the rhythm of this tune, with the sparse downbeats and
> heavy syncopation. I've always been into funk, funk-rock, funk-metal,
> jazz-funk and so on, which explains a lot why bass is my favorite
> instrument.
>
> ~D.
>

🔗aum <aum@...>

9/2/2008 3:48:31 AM

My usual mapping is 7edo on white keys and tones from 14edo on black keys. But I never used this 12 of 14 scale in any finished piece.
Two simple songs in 7edo you can find at TraxInSpace:
http://www.traxinspace.com/search?what=songs&search=pavouci&x=0&y=0
http://www.traxinspace.com/search?what=songs&search=kelt&x=0&y=0
or:
http://www.uvnitr.cz/flao/pavouci.html
http://www.uvnitr.cz/flao/kelt.html
Pavouci (Spiders) is based on simple I-II-I-II-... progression. Kelt (Celt) is I-II-VII-V-I-...
Milan

Carlo Serafini wrote:
> Hi Milan
> I did not map the 7 steps of the scale to 7 white keys (it did not even occur to me!) but to > the 7 contiguous keys of my master keyboard. To me this scale has some kind of > myxolydian flavour (with neutral thirds), that's the reason why, I think, it sounds "familiar".
>

🔗Carlo Serafini <carlo@...>

9/2/2008 5:59:42 AM

Hi Milan
Pavouci is much too scary for my taste (who's got that Barry White voice? You?)
Kelt is much more "digestible" (I like that one)
:-)

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, aum <aum@...> wrote:
>
> My usual mapping is 7edo on white keys and tones from 14edo on black
> keys. But I never used this 12 of 14 scale in any finished piece.
> Two simple songs in 7edo you can find at TraxInSpace:
> http://www.traxinspace.com/search?what=songs&search=pavouci&x=0&y=0
> http://www.traxinspace.com/search?what=songs&search=kelt&x=0&y=0
> or:
> http://www.uvnitr.cz/flao/pavouci.html
> http://www.uvnitr.cz/flao/kelt.html
> Pavouci (Spiders) is based on simple I-II-I-II-... progression. Kelt
> (Celt) is I-II-VII-V-I-...
> Milan
>
>
>
> Carlo Serafini wrote:
> > Hi Milan
> > I did not map the 7 steps of the scale to 7 white keys (it did not even occur to me!) but
to
> > the 7 contiguous keys of my master keyboard. To me this scale has some kind of
> > myxolydian flavour (with neutral thirds), that's the reason why, I think, it sounds
"familiar".
> >
>

🔗aum <aum@...>

9/2/2008 6:07:50 AM

Yes, it is my heavily processed tenor. :-) M

Carlo Serafini wrote:
> Hi Milan
> Pavouci is much too scary for my taste (who's got that Barry White voice? You?)
> Kelt is much more "digestible" (I like that one)
> :-)
>