A Different Kind of Minimalism

Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,

For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:

http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3

Tuning chart:

http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html

Score:

http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf

It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and the entire
melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved the Zen
mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.

Yours,

Kyle

Dear Kyle,

Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a file of the
scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a mistake in it:

B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents

Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?

Thanks!
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
>
> For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
>
> Tuning chart:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
>
> Score:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
>
> It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and the
entire
> melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved the
Zen
> mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
>
> Yours,
>
> Kyle
>

Ah, I see it's at the top of the page, 81/64 (also could have
figured it out if I had been using my brain)... anyway, the
list in the table has the mistake in it. OK, now I can go
play it!

Yours,
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Kyle,
>
> Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a file of
the
> scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a mistake in it:
>
> B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
>
> Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
>
> Thanks!
> Aaron
> =====
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> >
> > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> >
> > Tuning chart:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> >
> > Score:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> >
> > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and the
> entire
> > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved the
> Zen
> > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Kyle
> >
>

Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.

Kyle

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Kyle,
>
> Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a file of
the
> scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a mistake in it:
>
> B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
>
> Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
>
> Thanks!
> Aaron
> =====
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> >
> > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> >
> > Tuning chart:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> >
> > Score:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> >
> > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and the
> entire
> > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved the
> Zen
> > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Kyle
> >
>

Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?

Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?

Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
>
> Kyle
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Kyle,
> >
> > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a file of
> the
> > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a mistake in it:
> >
> > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> >
> > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > >
> > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > >
> > > Tuning chart:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > >
> > > Score:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > >
> > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and
the
> > entire
> > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved
the
> > Zen
> > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> >
>

Dear Kyle,

Actually, your octave numbers are neither MIDI octaves nor
octaves where C4 is middle C. You have middle C listed as
the key "C3". I'm not familiar with that.

So, it took me quite some time to figure this out, as I kept
getting wrong pitches tuning keys with wrong octave
numbers. I think since you are writing here explicitly for
a MIDI instrument, the best thing to do would be to give
MIDI Note numbers, not octave numbers. So, your first
note would be MIDI note 46. If you use MIDI octaves, this
would be B3. If you use C4=middle C octaves, it would
be B2. It's B1 on your list. Quite confusing.

Anyway, it's working now. I see B1 and C2 on your list need
to be in the order as listed to sound right from the score, but I
find it weird that you did it that way. Is there any reason for
it? All the other pitches are in ascending order, and only these
two aren't.

Nice to have a new piece to play that sounds good and
is an easy read.

Thanks,
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?
>
> Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
> MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?
>
> Aaron
> =====
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Kyle,
> > >
> > > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a file
of
> > the
> > > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a mistake in
it:
> > >
> > > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> > >
> > > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > > >
> > > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > > >
> > > > Tuning chart:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > > >
> > > > Score:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > > >
> > > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and
> the
> > > entire
> > > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved
> the
> > > Zen
> > > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > > >
> > > > Yours,
> > > >
> > > > Kyle
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Kyle~
Thanks for sharing. It is always enjoyable to be able to take in such subtle melodic shifts in tuning that often result in a bigger span in actual musical "meaning".
And it is this very difference in meaning that so often too many are in a rush to 'tempered' out.

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

kylegann1955 wrote:
>
> Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
>
> Kyle
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" > <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Kyle,
> >
> > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and > I'm making a file of
> the
> > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the > website has a mistake in it:
> >
> > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> >
> > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > >
> > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. > Recording:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3 > <http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3>
> > >
> > > Tuning chart:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html > <http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html>
> > >
> > > Score:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf > <http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf>
> > >
> > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of > harmonic nuance, and the
> > entire
> > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet > having achieved the
> > Zen
> > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> >
>
>

Hi Aaron,

I don't know what kind of MIDI system you're used to, but on all my software and
hardware (including Li'l Miss Scale Oven, which I use to tune Kontakt), middle C = C3. Is it
possible there's another system out there? I accidentally mixed up B1 and C2, and got so
used to those pitches being there I decided to leave them. Actually, I usually tend to assign
pitches to the keyboard for playability rather than a linear scale anyway, so it's rare for me
to have a consistently ascending scale. Thanks for your interest.

Yours,

Kyle

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Kyle,
>
> Actually, your octave numbers are neither MIDI octaves nor
> octaves where C4 is middle C. You have middle C listed as
> the key "C3". I'm not familiar with that.
>
> So, it took me quite some time to figure this out, as I kept
> getting wrong pitches tuning keys with wrong octave
> numbers. I think since you are writing here explicitly for
> a MIDI instrument, the best thing to do would be to give
> MIDI Note numbers, not octave numbers. So, your first
> note would be MIDI note 46. If you use MIDI octaves, this
> would be B3. If you use C4=middle C octaves, it would
> be B2. It's B1 on your list. Quite confusing.
>
> Anyway, it's working now. I see B1 and C2 on your list need
> to be in the order as listed to sound right from the score, but I
> find it weird that you did it that way. Is there any reason for
> it? All the other pitches are in ascending order, and only these
> two aren't.
>
> Nice to have a new piece to play that sounds good and
> is an easy read.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron
> =====
> Aaron Hunt
> H-Pi Instruments
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?
> >
> > Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
> > MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?
> >
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
> > >
> > > Kyle
> > >
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dear Kyle,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a
file
> of
> > > the
> > > > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a mistake
in
> it:
> > > >
> > > > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > > > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > > > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> > > >
> > > > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Aaron
> > > > =====
> > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > > > >
> > > > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > > > >
> > > > > Tuning chart:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Score:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance,
and
> > the
> > > > entire
> > > > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having
achieved
> > the
> > > > Zen
> > > > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yours,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyle
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
>
> For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>.
Recording:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
>
> Tuning chart:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
>
> Score:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
>
> It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of
harmonic nuance, and the entire
> melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet
having achieved the Zen
> mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.

hehe :)

looking forward to listening, as always, to a new KG piece....btw,, I
wasn't aware of 'Charing Cross' somehow until yesterday, but I
listened to that yesterday and greatly enjoyed it. One note on
'Charing'--my own preference, especially for headphone listening, is
to have bass instruments panned near the center, though...feels funny
to my ears to have all the lowest bits 'hard right'..but I suppose
since we are no longer dealing with LPs, and you might have intended
it for speaker listening, that's a moot point...

Ok, onward and upward to 'NewAunts'---listening soon....

Kyle,

Love it, and would love to hear what it would sound like with a real
acoustic piano, were it possible. Some of these harmonies are so
piquantly gorgeous.

-AKJ.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
>
> For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>.
Recording:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
>
> Tuning chart:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
>
> Score:
>
> http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
>
> It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of
harmonic nuance, and the entire
> melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet
having achieved the Zen
> mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
>
> Yours,
>
> Kyle
>

Thanks, Aaron - yeah, I just redid a better version of Charing Cross and re-uploaded it. I
never, ever listen to music on headphones, so the bass panning is an issue I never would
have thought of. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll keep it in mind when I redo
these.

Yours,

Kyle

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson" <aaron@...> wrote:
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> >
> > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>.
> Recording:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> >
> > Tuning chart:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> >
> > Score:
> >
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> >
> > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of
> harmonic nuance, and the entire
> > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet
> having achieved the Zen
> > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
>
> hehe :)
>
> looking forward to listening, as always, to a new KG piece....btw,, I
> wasn't aware of 'Charing Cross' somehow until yesterday, but I
> listened to that yesterday and greatly enjoyed it. One note on
> 'Charing'--my own preference, especially for headphone listening, is
> to have bass instruments panned near the center, though...feels funny
> to my ears to have all the lowest bits 'hard right'..but I suppose
> since we are no longer dealing with LPs, and you might have intended
> it for speaker listening, that's a moot point...
>
> Ok, onward and upward to 'NewAunts'---listening soon....
>

Hi Kyle.

MIDI octaves progress starting at 0 for MIDI key 0.
Here's a chart:
<http://tomscarff.tripod.com/midi_analyser/midi_note_numbers_for_octaves.htm>

LMSO gets C3 for middle C... I vaguely remember reading something
about this, and there's is also a note abput it on that page.
Some early piece of MIDI software did this nonsense of
middle C being C3, and ever since others have followed suit.
Too bad it contradicts both standard octave
numbers and the MIDI system itself.

Yamaha is credited as having established middle C = C5, but
this is just what happens if you follow the MIDI standard. A lot of
software uses the MIDI octaves where middle C is C5.

I think the Acoustical Society of America is credited with
establishing C4 as middle C. As far as I know, in the UK and Europe
they use the Helmholtz system of upper and lower case,
duplications and primes.

Yours,
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I don't know what kind of MIDI system you're used to, but on all my software and
> hardware (including Li'l Miss Scale Oven, which I use to tune Kontakt), middle C = C3. Is
it
> possible there's another system out there? I accidentally mixed up B1 and C2, and got
so
> used to those pitches being there I decided to leave them. Actually, I usually tend to
assign
> pitches to the keyboard for playability rather than a linear scale anyway, so it's rare for
me
> to have a consistently ascending scale. Thanks for your interest.
>
> Yours,
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Kyle,
> >
> > Actually, your octave numbers are neither MIDI octaves nor
> > octaves where C4 is middle C. You have middle C listed as
> > the key "C3". I'm not familiar with that.
> >
> > So, it took me quite some time to figure this out, as I kept
> > getting wrong pitches tuning keys with wrong octave
> > numbers. I think since you are writing here explicitly for
> > a MIDI instrument, the best thing to do would be to give
> > MIDI Note numbers, not octave numbers. So, your first
> > note would be MIDI note 46. If you use MIDI octaves, this
> > would be B3. If you use C4=middle C octaves, it would
> > be B2. It's B1 on your list. Quite confusing.
> >
> > Anyway, it's working now. I see B1 and C2 on your list need
> > to be in the order as listed to sound right from the score, but I
> > find it weird that you did it that way. Is there any reason for
> > it? All the other pitches are in ascending order, and only these
> > two aren't.
> >
> > Nice to have a new piece to play that sounds good and
> > is an easy read.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?
> > >
> > > Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
> > > MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
> > > >
> > > > Kyle
> > > >
> > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Kyle,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a
> file
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a
mistake
> in
> > it:
> > > > >
> > > > > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > > > > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > > > > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Aaron
> > > > > =====
> > > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tuning chart:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Score:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > entire
> > > > > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having
> achieved
> > > the
> > > > > Zen
> > > > > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kyle
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

That system where C3=middle C doesn't make much sense in a purely MIDI
context.

C5 is middle C as far as I've always known it by MIDI standard.
12*5=60, and middle C is key 60...Now, obviously, on a typical
keyboard it's not the 5th C...hence I imagine the folks who say it's
C3 are thinking from a piano keyboard point of view.

CSound uses the standard of middle C = C8, oddly enough, b/c they go
by the CPS value where 2^8=256, which is close to 261cps.

-AKJ.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I don't know what kind of MIDI system you're used to, but on all my
software and
> hardware (including Li'l Miss Scale Oven, which I use to tune
Kontakt), middle C = C3. Is it
> possible there's another system out there? I accidentally mixed up
B1 and C2, and got so
> used to those pitches being there I decided to leave them. Actually,
I usually tend to assign
> pitches to the keyboard for playability rather than a linear scale
anyway, so it's rare for me
> to have a consistently ascending scale. Thanks for your interest.
>
> Yours,
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt"
<aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Kyle,
> >
> > Actually, your octave numbers are neither MIDI octaves nor
> > octaves where C4 is middle C. You have middle C listed as
> > the key "C3". I'm not familiar with that.
> >
> > So, it took me quite some time to figure this out, as I kept
> > getting wrong pitches tuning keys with wrong octave
> > numbers. I think since you are writing here explicitly for
> > a MIDI instrument, the best thing to do would be to give
> > MIDI Note numbers, not octave numbers. So, your first
> > note would be MIDI note 46. If you use MIDI octaves, this
> > would be B3. If you use C4=middle C octaves, it would
> > be B2. It's B1 on your list. Quite confusing.
> >
> > Anyway, it's working now. I see B1 and C2 on your list need
> > to be in the order as listed to sound right from the score, but I
> > find it weird that you did it that way. Is there any reason for
> > it? All the other pitches are in ascending order, and only these
> > two aren't.
> >
> > Nice to have a new piece to play that sounds good and
> > is an easy read.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt"
<aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?
> > >
> > > Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
> > > MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
> > > >
> > > > Kyle
> > > >
> > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt"
<aaronhunt@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Kyle,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the
score and I'm making a
> file
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on
the website has a mistake
> in
> > it:
> > > > >
> > > > > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > > > > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > > > > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Aaron
> > > > > =====
> > > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955"
<kgann@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New
Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tuning chart:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Score:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its
intensity of harmonic nuance,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > entire
> > > > > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents.
Not yet having
> achieved
> > > the
> > > > > Zen
> > > > > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kyle
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Dear Kyle,

I hope you'll add the information to the webpage and the
score that you are using C3 = middle C.

But the better way to resolve the confusion is just use MIDI
note numbers and leave off the octave numbers altogether.
Everyone working with MIDI knows that middle C is key 60.

Yours,
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
>
> I don't know what kind of MIDI system you're used to, but on all my software and
> hardware (including Li'l Miss Scale Oven, which I use to tune Kontakt), middle C = C3. Is
it
> possible there's another system out there? I accidentally mixed up B1 and C2, and got
so
> used to those pitches being there I decided to leave them. Actually, I usually tend to
assign
> pitches to the keyboard for playability rather than a linear scale anyway, so it's rare for
me
> to have a consistently ascending scale. Thanks for your interest.
>
> Yours,
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@...m, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> >
> > Dear Kyle,
> >
> > Actually, your octave numbers are neither MIDI octaves nor
> > octaves where C4 is middle C. You have middle C listed as
> > the key "C3". I'm not familiar with that.
> >
> > So, it took me quite some time to figure this out, as I kept
> > getting wrong pitches tuning keys with wrong octave
> > numbers. I think since you are writing here explicitly for
> > a MIDI instrument, the best thing to do would be to give
> > MIDI Note numbers, not octave numbers. So, your first
> > note would be MIDI note 46. If you use MIDI octaves, this
> > would be B3. If you use C4=middle C octaves, it would
> > be B2. It's B1 on your list. Quite confusing.
> >
> > Anyway, it's working now. I see B1 and C2 on your list need
> > to be in the order as listed to sound right from the score, but I
> > find it weird that you did it that way. Is there any reason for
> > it? All the other pitches are in ascending order, and only these
> > two aren't.
> >
> > Nice to have a new piece to play that sounds good and
> > is an easy read.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Aaron
> > =====
> > Aaron Hunt
> > H-Pi Instruments
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?
> > >
> > > Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
> > > MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
> > > >
> > > > Kyle
> > > >
> > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt" <aaronhunt@>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Kyle,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the score and I'm making a
> file
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on the website has a
mistake
> in
> > it:
> > > > >
> > > > > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > > > > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > > > > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Aaron
> > > > > =====
> > > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tuning chart:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Score:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance,
> and
> > > the
> > > > > entire
> > > > > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having
> achieved
> > > the
> > > > > Zen
> > > > > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yours,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kyle
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Cool....

as I alluded to, bass panning to the center was an engineering
standard for years, and still is..it's origins are the fact that on
stereo LPs, any other way could make a needle jump it's groove.

I find that for unknown psychoacoustical reasons, it's better to
either pan it center or slightly left, but never _hard_ right.

Interestingly, you will see orchestras, as the CSO does, put the bass
fiddles on the right of the stage from audience POV. I'm not sure of
what the standard practice isfor instrument placement is, it seems to
vary according to local traditions, hall characteristics, and who's at
the podium.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Aaron - yeah, I just redid a better version of Charing Cross
and re-uploaded it. I
> never, ever listen to music on headphones, so the bass panning is an
issue I never would
> have thought of. Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I'll keep
it in mind when I redo
> these.
>
> Yours,
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson"
<aaron@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > >
> > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>.
> > Recording:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > >
> > > Tuning chart:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > >
> > > Score:
> > >
> > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > >
> > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of
> > harmonic nuance, and the entire
> > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet
> > having achieved the Zen
> > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> >
> > hehe :)
> >
> > looking forward to listening, as always, to a new KG piece....btw,, I
> > wasn't aware of 'Charing Cross' somehow until yesterday, but I
> > listened to that yesterday and greatly enjoyed it. One note on
> > 'Charing'--my own preference, especially for headphone listening, is
> > to have bass instruments panned near the center, though...feels funny
> > to my ears to have all the lowest bits 'hard right'..but I suppose
> > since we are no longer dealing with LPs, and you might have intended
> > it for speaker listening, that's a moot point...
> >
> > Ok, onward and upward to 'NewAunts'---listening soon....
> >
>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister
Johnson" <aaron@...> wrote:
> CSound uses the standard of middle C = C8, oddly
> enough, b/c they go by the CPS value where 2^8=256,
> which is close to 261cps.
>
> -AKJ.

I had forgotten about that... add it to the soup! BTW, I found this
nice chart of some competing octave designation systems:
<http://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/appendix/octaveregisters/octaveregisters.ht
ml>

Yours,
Aaron
=====
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Aaron,
> >
> > I don't know what kind of MIDI system you're used to, but on all my
> software and
> > hardware (including Li'l Miss Scale Oven, which I use to tune
> Kontakt), middle C = C3. Is it
> > possible there's another system out there? I accidentally mixed up
> B1 and C2, and got so
> > used to those pitches being there I decided to leave them. Actually,
> I usually tend to assign
> > pitches to the keyboard for playability rather than a linear scale
> anyway, so it's rare for me
> > to have a consistently ascending scale. Thanks for your interest.
> >
> > Yours,
> >
> > Kyle
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt"
> <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Kyle,
> > >
> > > Actually, your octave numbers are neither MIDI octaves nor
> > > octaves where C4 is middle C. You have middle C listed as
> > > the key "C3". I'm not familiar with that.
> > >
> > > So, it took me quite some time to figure this out, as I kept
> > > getting wrong pitches tuning keys with wrong octave
> > > numbers. I think since you are writing here explicitly for
> > > a MIDI instrument, the best thing to do would be to give
> > > MIDI Note numbers, not octave numbers. So, your first
> > > note would be MIDI note 46. If you use MIDI octaves, this
> > > would be B3. If you use C4=middle C octaves, it would
> > > be B2. It's B1 on your list. Quite confusing.
> > >
> > > Anyway, it's working now. I see B1 and C2 on your list need
> > > to be in the order as listed to sound right from the score, but I
> > > find it weird that you did it that way. Is there any reason for
> > > it? All the other pitches are in ascending order, and only these
> > > two aren't.
> > >
> > > Nice to have a new piece to play that sounds good and
> > > is an easy read.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Aaron
> > > =====
> > > Aaron Hunt
> > > H-Pi Instruments
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt"
> <aaronhunt@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks; got it. Aren't B1 and C1 also reversed on the list?
> > > >
> > > > Also, I got confused by your octave numbers. You are using
> > > > MIDI octave numbers, not C4 octave numbers?
> > > >
> > > > Aaron
> > > > =====
> > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955" <kgann@>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for catching that, Aaron - it's 81/16.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyle
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Andrew Hunt"
> <aaronhunt@>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Kyle,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for posting your new piece! I've printed out the
> score and I'm making a
> > file
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > scale so I can play through it... But I find your scale on
> the website has a mistake
> > in
> > > it:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B3 C#+ 140/27 C#4 + 7.8 cents
> > > > > > C4 C#L 36/7 C#4 + 35.1 cents
> > > > > > C#4 D7- 140/27 C#4 + 49.3 cents
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can you please supply the correct ratio for B3?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > Aaron
> > > > > > =====
> > > > > > Aaron Hunt
> > > > > > H-Pi Instruments
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "kylegann1955"
> <kgann@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New
> Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tuning chart:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Score:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its
> intensity of harmonic nuance,
> > and
> > > > the
> > > > > > entire
> > > > > > > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents.
> Not yet having
> > achieved
> > > > the
> > > > > > Zen
> > > > > > > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yours,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kyle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Kyle~
i put your scale up on Euler lattice as i find i can see more this way than with just numbers in my head.
Possibly this is not a typical set of pitches. but since it lies outside of most of the configurations on these lists i thought i would ask what guided you to this arrangement, or is this scale merely a subset of some larger your scale.

http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

>
>

At 10:12 PM 8/15/2008, you wrote:
>Kyle~
> i put your scale up on Euler lattice as i find i can see more this way
>than with just numbers in my head.
>Possibly this is not a typical set of pitches. but since it lies outside
>of most of the configurations on these lists i thought i would ask what
>guided you to this arrangement, or is this scale merely a subset of some
>larger your scale.
>
> http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg

Nice diagram. How did you make it?

-Carl

i did it in photoshop. which i use for doing my scores also.Even though we are looking at melodic material, i find it easy to see what is in a tuning this way. My eye patterns exceeds my number pattern grasp.

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

Carl Lumma wrote:
>
> At 10:12 PM 8/15/2008, you wrote:
> >Kyle~
> > i put your scale up on Euler lattice as i find i can see more this way
> >than with just numbers in my head.
> >Possibly this is not a typical set of pitches. but since it lies outside
> >of most of the configurations on these lists i thought i would ask what
> >guided you to this arrangement, or is this scale merely a subset of some
> >larger your scale.
> >
> > http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg <http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg>
>
> Nice diagram. How did you make it?
>
> -Carl
>
>

Kraig,

I did what I kind of always do. I wanted to play with nearly identical melodies (or motives)
that had different-sized major seconds for nuance, so I started playing around with 11/10
versus 8/7 versus 9/8, then filled it out to all the superparticular ratios from 12/11 to
6/5. Then I added notes to harmonize them with triads, then added a couple extra melody
notes for each chord. I was even a little less systematic than usual in that I just picked
whatever original dyads were easiest to notate (in Ben's JI notation). The less systematic I
can be, the more I enjoy composing. I bet most of my lattices look really funky.

Most of my microtonal pieces start off that way: all the simple 4ths/tritones/5ths from 4/3
to 3/2 (Battle Scene from Custer), all the simple ratios around 11/9 (How Miraculous
Things Happen), and so on.

Thanks for the Euler lattice. I'll make use of it, if you don't mind.

Yours,

Kyle

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
>
> Kyle~
> i put your scale up on Euler lattice as i find i can see more this way
> than with just numbers in my head.
> Possibly this is not a typical set of pitches. but since it lies outside
> of most of the configurations on these lists i thought i would ask what
> guided you to this arrangement, or is this scale merely a subset of some
> larger your scale.
>
> http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg
>
>
> /^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
> Mesotonal Music from:
> _'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere:
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
>
> _'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
> Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>
>
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Thanks, Kyle, very nice piece. I also really like the fact that this is playable by normal -- i.e., non-virtuosic -- human beings (given a proper keyboard of course).

- Dave
http://mysterybear.net

kylegann1955 wrote:
> Hello, fellow pitch-squeezers,
> > For your delectation, a new microtonal piece, <i>New Aunts</i>. Recording:
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.mp3
> > Tuning chart:
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.html
> > Score:
> > http://www.kylegann.com/NewAunts.pdf
> > It's a very minor study, but I'm intrigued by its intensity of harmonic nuance, and the entire > melody uses 19 pitches within a range of only 716 cents. Not yet having achieved the Zen > mastery of Aaron KJ, I will be mortified by your comments.
> > Yours,
> > Kyle

Kyle~
Thanks for filling me in. Knowing that your concern in this case was melodic not harmonic, it didn't seem out of place for the lattice to come out the way it did. While 'crystals' might have a disposition in to grow in certain ways, quite often than not in nature there are other forces that shape them otherwise. It implies a history of such things. One of the things i noticed was something that Doug Leedy did with one of his choral pieces. A harmony up to the 11 on the tonic with the subharmonic having the 7 but no 11 and the dominant the opposite. Along these lines one finds each tone having a unique' individualistic' relation to the whole.

I had never look in depth what you had used in other pieces and wasn't sure how representative it was or not.
My earlier work i would look at things systematically ( possibly to learn the material i had chosen) but likewise avoid them for they just don't seem to work. Anyway enlightening to get a glimpse at how you think about it.

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Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

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kylegann1955 wrote:
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> Kraig,
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> I did what I kind of always do. I wanted to play with nearly identical > melodies (or motives)
> that had different-sized major seconds for nuance, so I started > playing around with 11/10
> versus 8/7 versus 9/8, then filled it out to all the superparticular > ratios from 12/11 to
> 6/5. Then I added notes to harmonize them with triads, then added a > couple extra melody
> notes for each chord. I was even a little less systematic than usual > in that I just picked
> whatever original dyads were easiest to notate (in Ben's JI notation). > The less systematic I
> can be, the more I enjoy composing. I bet most of my lattices look > really funky.
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> Most of my microtonal pieces start off that way: all the simple > 4ths/tritones/5ths from 4/3
> to 3/2 (Battle Scene from Custer), all the simple ratios around 11/9 > (How Miraculous
> Things Happen), and so on.
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> Thanks for the Euler lattice. I'll make use of it, if you don't mind.
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> Yours,
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> Kyle
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> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, Kraig Grady > <kraiggrady@...> wrote:
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> > Kyle~
> > i put your scale up on Euler lattice as i find i can see more this way
> > than with just numbers in my head.
> > Possibly this is not a typical set of pitches. but since it lies > outside
> > of most of the configurations on these lists i thought i would ask what
> > guided you to this arrangement, or is this scale merely a subset of > some
> > larger your scale.
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> > http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg <http://anaphoria.com/Gann1.jpg>
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