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Re: The MMM Notation Editor/Sequencer: Recap/Update + alternative rh

🔗Daniel Wolf <djwolf@...>

7/8/2008 8:37:00 AM

"Even though alternative rhythms might not be a list subject, but
since there is none other place to discuss the subject and since it
seems to be a parallel subject to alternative rhythms, why ignore it?

Tony Salinas"

Without wishing to overburden the developers, many of us working in alternative tunings are also adventurous in rhythmic domains. Inasmuch as a notation program is some sort of sequencer, it has to deal with rhythmic notation and playback from the very beginning of the development process, or it will come back to haunt. Both Finale and Sibelius locked themselves into some very strict limitations with regard to rhythm which can only be overcome with kludges in which either the playback or the notation is false -- in Finale, for example, the presence of the measure at a very low level of the program make it difficult to have either non-alligned measures (without a graphic kludge involving combinations of hidden and fake key signatures and bar lines or playback of measures with independent metres. I would presume that a midi-based microtonal notation program, since it will need to segregate midi channels efficiently, will treat channels independently enough that rhythmic/metric independence should not be a great problem.

Daniel Wolf

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

7/8/2008 10:44:37 AM

>Without wishing to overburden the developers, many of us working in
>alternative tunings are also adventurous in rhythmic domains. Inasmuch as
>a notation program is some sort of sequencer, it has to deal with rhythmic
>notation and playback from the very beginning of the development process,
>or it will come back to haunt. Both Finale and Sibelius locked themselves
>into some very strict limitations with regard to rhythm which can only be
>overcome with kludges in which either the playback or the notation is
>false -- in Finale, for example, the presence of the measure at a very low
>level of the program make it difficult to have either non-alligned
>measures (without a graphic kludge involving combinations of hidden and
>fake key signatures and bar lines or playback of measures with independent
>metres. I would presume that a midi-based microtonal notation program,
>since it will need to segregate midi channels efficiently, will treat
>channels independently enough that rhythmic/metric independence should not
>be a great problem.

Daniel- your knowledge of both Finale and Sibelius could be
absolutely critical to this effort (if it ever gets off the
ground). You're welcome to join us at

http://groups.google.com/group/microtools

-Carl