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🔗robert thomas martin <robertthomasmartin@...>

6/17/2008 1:42:06 AM

My algorithms/substitutes are easy ways to make instant microtonal
music using pre-existing midi files. For practical purposes they are
limited to 12 notes to the octave but can be theoretically extended to
any number of notes to the octave providing that the desired interval
is stacked consistently and eventually cycles back to zero cents.

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

6/17/2008 2:17:16 AM

Can you give me an example of what you mean? Do you just take midi
files and drop some of the pitches so that 12-tet is retuned to say, a
12-note subset of 5-limit JI in C major?

-Mike

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:42 AM, robert thomas martin
<robertthomasmartin@...> wrote:
> My algorithms/substitutes are easy ways to make instant microtonal
> music using pre-existing midi files. For practical purposes they are
> limited to 12 notes to the octave but can be theoretically extended to
> any number of notes to the octave providing that the desired interval
> is stacked consistently and eventually cycles back to zero cents.
>
>

🔗robert thomas martin <robertthomasmartin@...>

6/17/2008 9:45:29 AM

You are talking nonsense. Explain exactly and precisely where my
musical algorithms have occurred in the past and I will take you
seriously. Otherwise, keep your petty jealousy to yourself.

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

6/17/2008 9:48:12 AM

> You are talking nonsense. Explain exactly and precisely where my
> musical algorithms have occurred in the past and I will take you
> seriously. Otherwise, keep your petty jealousy to yourself.

http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/l/linear-temp.aspx

Can I feel free to spread my petty jealousy around now?

-Mike

🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

6/17/2008 9:51:31 AM

At 09:48 AM 6/17/2008, you wrote:
>> You are talking nonsense. Explain exactly and precisely where my
>> musical algorithms have occurred in the past and I will take you
>> seriously. Otherwise, keep your petty jealousy to yourself.
>
>http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/l/linear-temp.aspx
>
>Can I feel free to spread my petty jealousy around now?
>
>-Mike

Don't bother. I've already pointed Robert to Gene's 2003
work (and see my recent post to the tuning list). He's
convinced he's a prophet.

-Carl

🔗robert thomas martin <robertthomasmartin@...>

6/17/2008 9:57:18 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Battaglia"
<battaglia01@...> wrote:
>
> > You are talking nonsense. Explain exactly and precisely where my
> > musical algorithms have occurred in the past and I will take you
> > seriously. Otherwise, keep your petty jealousy to yourself.
>
> http://www.tonalsoft.com/enc/l/linear-temp.aspx
>
> Can I feel free to spread my petty jealousy around now?
>
> -Mike
>
From Robert. Your tonalsoft reference doesn't explain anything
however bizarre one construes it. But please, spread your petty
jealousy around. The more the merrier.

🔗Mike Battaglia <battaglia01@...>

6/17/2008 11:33:22 AM

> From Robert. Your tonalsoft reference doesn't explain anything
> however bizarre one construes it. But please, spread your petty
> jealousy around. The more the merrier.

What is "bizarre" is in the eye of the beholder. And it certainly
explained something to me. If you don't understand the tonalsoft
reference, I'll explain it to you:

A linear temperament has two "generators". One of them is the octave,
and the other can be any interval at all, rational or irrational, with
any cent value. Every interval in a linear temperament can be created
by stacking the generating interval on top of itself for however many
times you'd like, and putting it down in the same octave as the
starting note.

1/4-comma meantone, for example, is a linear temperament, as it's just
the result of taking a 696-cent interval, labeling it to be a "fifth,"
and stacking it on top of each other 12 times or however many times
you would like. So is 1/3-comma meantone, and in fact, any meantone
system. There are other linear temperaments as well - namely the
"schismatic" and "magic" temperaments and "miracle" temperaments, to
name a few. What you have done is to vary the size of the generating
interval, which means that you have developed a system to generate any
linear temperament on the fly. It's certainly interesting, but not the
first time the concept has been realized - Erv Wilson was studying
linear temperaments years ago, and it's he who coined the term. The
Scala software can generate linear temperaments as well and retune
MIDI data or files on the fly to utilize them as well, and can go
beyond 12 pitches per octave as well as pitches that don't cycle every
octave if necessary.

-Mike