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On the mission of MMM

🔗Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>

6/3/2008 11:37:18 PM

I'm happy if Prent would like to step out of the shadows to address
this, but I'll just throw it out:

MMM (or as it was originally monikered, CMM, for Creating Microtonal
Music) has always been about the practical, virtual, and actual
creation of microtonal music, from the very beginning, this list has
had a mission of focusing on the creative and productive (as in
producing) aspects of microtonalism. We were an off-shoot from the
main tuning list, and were happy to leave the heavy lifting of theory,
theoretic development and discoveries (and arguments) to them (and
their erudite brother, tuning-math).

I bring this up because recent posts have showed a trend towards lists
of numbers and reasons for multiplication without any connection to an
active creative process.

Not our game, as it were.

It may very well be that I can become more involved again on a regular
basis in the coming months; real life will let me know if that is
possible. Nonetheless, having started this list nearly 7 years ago, it
remains a place I value, and read always. I'd like to see some return
to a productive community, sharing musical phrases, completed pieces,
ideas about instrumentation (virtual or not), and whatever live
concerts one is able to come up with.

I realize this may be a bit out of the blue, and a fair number of
newer people may not know me from a dried cranberry. Nonetheless, MMM
has always placed the "M" first: Making.

Followed by two other "M"s, I suppose. ;)

For those of you that care, after the close I've put the blurb that
used to be on the home page. It is what guided us for quite a while.

Creatively yours,
Jon

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Original text on the 'home' page of the forum:

Welcome to Creating Microtonal Music, a forum dedicated specifically
to the act of making microtonal music based on, or departing from, a
rich assortment of world traditions, styles, tuning systems, and
theoretical approaches. As our name suggests, our special focus is on
the creation of new music, with mutual encouragement and enthusiasm as
we share passages, pieces, and bits of supportive criticism or lively
dialog.

Two keynotes of our group are concreteness and civility: keeping
discussions closely related to the actual creation of new music, and
keeping them friendly.

Other forums provide for general discussions of philosophy, theory,
and music history in various cultures; we strive to keep similar
remarks reasonably related to actual new passages, pieces, or planned
works. We also favor short, on-topic posts, in contrast to the longer
or more "academic-style" articles welcomed in other forums.

Keeping it friendly doesn't exclude frank criticism, especially when
sought, or even a free clash of ideas, so long as mutual respect
between people is maintained (see our Forum Guidelines for more
information). To sum up our general approach:

- Respect people
- Share music and enthusiasm
- Exchange ideas
- Create!

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

6/4/2008 12:00:40 AM

I agree.
More is to be gained by separate activities
...............of which this should be the more important! :)

/^_,',',',_ //^ /Kraig Grady_ ^_,',',',_
Mesotonal Music from:
_'''''''_ ^North/Western Hemisphere: North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>

_'''''''_ ^South/Eastern Hemisphere:
Austronesian Outpost of Anaphoria <http://anaphoriasouth.blogspot.com/>

',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',',

Jon Szanto wrote:
>
> I'm happy if Prent would like to step out of the shadows to address
> this, but I'll just throw it out:
>
> MMM (or as it was originally monikered, CMM, for Creating Microtonal
> Music) has always been about the practical, virtual, and actual
> creation of microtonal music, from the very beginning, this list has
> had a mission of focusing on the creative and productive (as in
> producing) aspects of microtonalism. We were an off-shoot from the
> main tuning list, and were happy to leave the heavy lifting of theory,
> theoretic development and discoveries (and arguments) to them (and
> their erudite brother, tuning-math).
>
> I bring this up because recent posts have showed a trend towards lists
> of numbers and reasons for multiplication without any connection to an
> active creative process.
>
> Not our game, as it were.
>
> It may very well be that I can become more involved again on a regular
> basis in the coming months; real life will let me know if that is
> possible. Nonetheless, having started this list nearly 7 years ago, it
> remains a place I value, and read always. I'd like to see some return
> to a productive community, sharing musical phrases, completed pieces,
> ideas about instrumentation (virtual or not), and whatever live
> concerts one is able to come up with.
>
> I realize this may be a bit out of the blue, and a fair number of
> newer people may not know me from a dried cranberry. Nonetheless, MMM
> has always placed the "M" first: Making.
>
> Followed by two other "M"s, I suppose. ;)
>
> For those of you that care, after the close I've put the blurb that
> used to be on the home page. It is what guided us for quite a while.
>
> Creatively yours,
> Jon
>
> -------------------------
> Original text on the 'home' page of the forum:
>
> Welcome to Creating Microtonal Music, a forum dedicated specifically
> to the act of making microtonal music based on, or departing from, a
> rich assortment of world traditions, styles, tuning systems, and
> theoretical approaches. As our name suggests, our special focus is on
> the creation of new music, with mutual encouragement and enthusiasm as
> we share passages, pieces, and bits of supportive criticism or lively
> dialog.
>
> Two keynotes of our group are concreteness and civility: keeping
> discussions closely related to the actual creation of new music, and
> keeping them friendly.
>
> Other forums provide for general discussions of philosophy, theory,
> and music history in various cultures; we strive to keep similar
> remarks reasonably related to actual new passages, pieces, or planned
> works. We also favor short, on-topic posts, in contrast to the longer
> or more "academic-style" articles welcomed in other forums.
>
> Keeping it friendly doesn't exclude frank criticism, especially when
> sought, or even a free clash of ideas, so long as mutual respect
> between people is maintained (see our Forum Guidelines for more
> information). To sum up our general approach:
>
> - Respect people
> - Share music and enthusiasm
> - Exchange ideas
> - Create!
>
>