AutoCAD synth output in X3D.

Hey all,

I found a cool way to output my AutoCAD compositions so that you can
experience them in a similar fashion to how it looks while I'm drawing
them. Check out what I've got so far at http://audiosculptures.com/.
It's not all microtonal and everything posted so far is experimental
or work in progress (nothing I'd call a "real" piece yet), but it's
interesting so I'd thought I'd share the news.

I've just started writing music in earnest with the CAD synth and my
focus right now is to explore the more unique aspects of it, so any
feedback will be greatly appreciated since a lot of my friends are
non-musicians and think I'm out of my gourd when they listen to what
I've made so far.

Anyway, feel free to tour the site and let me know what you think.

Regards,
Andy F.

Dear Andy,

Congratulations!

It seems your virtual 3D ANS open great perspectives for composers.
Is it possible now to draw music in seconds, cents and decibels?

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Mykhaylo Khramov"
<commator@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Andy,
>
> Congratulations!
>
> It seems your virtual 3D ANS open great perspectives for composers.
> Is it possible now to draw music in seconds, cents and decibels?
>

yes, yes, and yes!

There are some inaccuracies that still need to be ironed out in the dB
conversion but the time and pitch axes are precise to the sample level
which is currently 32-bit 48-khz on initial output.

The score itself is stored on disk using 64 bits on all three axes and
is vector based instead of sample based thus making it relatively
small in size. Currently the interpolations are all linear but I did
some experiments using NURBS curves a while back and I will most
likely revisit them when a faster computer is available to me because
they are absolutely gorgeous to look at and listen to. The curve code
is written and ready to go, but it's very slow and graphics intensive
and is much more than my laptop and most of my audience's computers
can handle at the moment. And besides that, there's plenty to explore
using linear interpolations alone right now and composing music with
this thing is already mind bending enough without adding the
complexities of NURBS into the mix.

Most importantly, though, is the fact that the synth is much more
stable compared to my earlier attempts (this is the seventh one I've
built from scratch now, hehe). I can now use it for hours and hours
without running into a show stopping bug if it even crashes at all,
which is a huge accomplishment for me since I have no formal computer
science education or degree.

I apologize if I'm tooting my own horn too much but I'm very proud of
what I've been able to accomplish through perseverance. This is now
an incredible tool and it will only get better and more advanced as
time goes on.

anyway... I've got another sculpture waiting to be uploaded so I've
got to go...

Regards,
- Andy F.

Thank you Andy for details.

They are very important for me, because my experiments with MIDI
modeling are parallel with my job wich is 3D modeling of metal art
items. I began with AutoCAD, but now use SolidWorks as more suitable
software.

I believe there is a great future for your method of composing music
because it is completely virtual.

Hope your 3DANS will soon available for all who wish to use it.

Is it possible to play sculptures in DWG format?

Regards,
Michael

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Mykhaylo Khramov"
<commator@...> wrote:
>
> Hope your 3DANS will soon available for all who wish to use it.
>

Many of the things that need to happen before it becomes available
revolve around me being able to make money since I am literally a
starving artist due to life choices I've made in order to be able to
continue its development (AutoCAD is not cheap). If anybody has any
advice in that department, I'm all ears.

> Is it possible to play sculptures in DWG format?

yes. I compile the wave files and play them back directly from
AutoCAD as can be seen in the picture linked below. Currently there
is no real-time animation in AutoCAD, though, since their plug-in
library is not thread safe. I'm pretty sure animation can be done,
but it goes against what AutoCAD is designed to do and is very
difficult. I've tried and failed many times. If the whole idea of
using CAD to draw music catches on then it will probably be done in
some kind of program like Blender or 3ds max since they have support
for animation built in, unlike AutoCAD. I have abstracted my base
libraries in order to make the eventual switch as easy as possible,
but porting the library to different 3d editors is on the back-burner
because I want to make some noise with it and prove its viability.

Here's a picture:
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/Monkage/MusiCADinaction.jpg

I develop it under the name "MusiCAD", but the name is already taken
by a notation program so it will have to be changed prior to release.

Many thanks for explanations.

Some questions else:

In which format are your output audio files?
Can you e-mail to me for example some DWGs of music in format
AutoCAD2000?
Also small videos in 3GP format to watch and listen them in mobile?

Regards,
Michael

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Mykhaylo Khramov"
<commator@...> wrote:
>
> Many thanks for explanations.

Your welcome. Thank you for the interest.

>
> In which format are your output audio files?
>

The individual tracks are first output to mono 32bit 48khz IEEE format
wave files, then mixed down to a single 16bit 44.1khz mono mp3 or PCM
format wave depending on if I'm looping the file or not.

>
> Can you e-mail to me for example some DWGs of music in format
> AutoCAD2000?
>

No, but I can email the drawings in Autodesk's portable .dwf format
for which there is a free viewer available from Autodesk --
http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4086277

>
> Also small videos in 3GP format to watch and listen them in mobile?
>

I generate a video using Fraps for every sculpture created and posted
to http://audiosculptures.com/. The video is then uploaded to youtube
-- http://www.youtube.com/DrewFill -- and embedded on the
appropriate web page. Feel free to download and convert the youtube
videos to 3GP.

- Andy F.

> > Can you e-mail to me for example some DWGs of music in format
> > AutoCAD2000?
> >
>
> No, but I can email the drawings in Autodesk's portable .dwf format
> for which there is a free viewer available from Autodesk --
> http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?siteID=123112&id=4086277

Oh! Please e-mail to commator@...
I'll try to learn better your sculptures.

Michael.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Mykhaylo Khramov"
<commator@...> wrote:

> Oh! Please e-mail to commator@...
> I'll try to learn better your sculptures.

The e-mail address gets truncated after the @ symbol in this forum.
Please post it differently or e-mail me off list (andy (at)
audiosculptures.com).

- Andy F.

> I generate a video using Fraps for every sculpture created and posted
> to http://audiosculptures.com/. The video is then uploaded to youtube
> -- http://www.youtube.com/DrewFill -- and embedded on the
> appropriate web page. Feel free to download and convert the youtube
> videos to 3GP.
>
> - Andy F.
>

Today have converted all 15 videos.
Will try to sort them in order of my preferences.
Then will send to you my list.

I'm very impressed,
Michael