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Microtuning on Macs in the "real" world

🔗Charles Lucy <makemicro@...>

12/14/2007 5:11:23 AM

Don't waste your time with MSP etc. and all the applications that the academic nerds suggest on the tuning lists.

(Most of them are lame on Macs, and require command line operation, including scala)

On a Mac use the Logic Pro 8 latest edition.

It is about $500 and has everything you could possibly need.

I have been using Logic and its earlier incarnations for the past ten years. There is nothing out there to compete (incl. CuBase, ProTools etc.)

Go to this url to learn how to microtune it.

http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html

You can get a krak bit torrent of the whole of Logic 8 from

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3811124/Logic_Studio_8

http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3810878/Logic_Pro_8___Serials

which actually works perfectly on both Tiger and Leopard, and will give you a good "try-free-before-buy" opportunity.

Enjoy!

🔗Chris Bryan <chris@...>

12/14/2007 5:58:51 AM

Wow. So much for respectful disagreement.

If you want a multitrack environment for recorded, 'static' compositions,
then yeah, logic is great and max is overkill. On the other hand, if you
want custom algorithms that respond to a performer in realtime, or simply a
sound installation or background music that never repeats itself (think
digital wind chimes!) then max/pd is the only way to go. I've used pd in
both ways with great success. It wouldn't have been harder in logic: it
would have been *impossible.* You can hear both pieces here:

cmbryan.com/Dialogue_hi.ogg
cmbryan.com/ensemble_sample.ogg

I had a friend who was going to spend hours tweaking individual samples to
put in logic for an installation that would have had to go on loop, and I
showed her how to automate the process in pd and generate it in realtime.

Comparing Logic to Max is like comparing a can opener to a screwdriver.
Anyone who tells you one of them is unnecessary obviously doesn't know what
its purpose is.

And yeah, I'm an academic nerd, so there ;) Actually, I just left my degree
program because I realised I have forgotten (or maybe never learned!) what
it means to really be a musician. Here's hoping I can get back to the
process of figuring that out.

Chris

On 14/12/2007, Charles Lucy <makemicro@...> wrote:
>
> Don't waste your time with MSP etc. and all the applications that the
> academic nerds suggest on the tuning lists.
>
> (Most of them are lame on Macs, and require command line operation,
> including scala)
>
> On a Mac use the Logic Pro 8 latest edition.
>
> It is about $500 and has everything you could possibly need.
>
> I have been using Logic and its earlier incarnations for the past ten
> years. There is nothing out there to compete (incl. CuBase, ProTools
> etc.)
>
> Go to this url to learn how to microtune it.
>
> http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboard/pitch_bend.html
>
> You can get a krak bit torrent of the whole of Logic 8 from
>
> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3811124/Logic_Studio_8
>
> http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3810878/Logic_Pro_8___Serials
>
> which actually works perfectly on both Tiger and Leopard, and will
> give you a good "try-free-before-buy" opportunity.
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
>

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🔗Carl Lumma <carl@...>

12/14/2007 9:11:57 AM

At 05:11 AM 12/14/2007, you wrote:
>Don't waste your time with MSP etc. and all the applications that the
>academic nerds suggest on the tuning lists.

So Jonny Greenwood (to name just one example) is a nerd on the
tuning list?

>(Most of them are lame on Macs, and require command line operation,
>including scala)

Max/MSP runs great on a Mac. In fact, the demo videos put out
by its creator are done on a Mac.

-Carl