free linuxsampler for windows

For windows, osx, & linux, does microtuning over sysex, plays giga,
dls, & akai samples. They're looking for feedback:

http://www.linuxsampler.org

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <tamahome02000@...> wrote:
>
> For windows, osx, & linux, does microtuning over sysex, plays giga,
> dls, & akai samples. They're looking for feedback:
>
> http://www.linuxsampler.org

This is a well-known mature project int the linux software world. One
of the first places, too, that I heard of DLS.

And, yes, microtuning without a scripting headache (Kontakt, etc.) is
a huge plus.

ok, I'm new to computer music and micro tones... I have messed with
the basic biggie software programs, but even with those i'm just a
rookie... however i'm finally getting a labtop of my own, a mac book
pro, and i'm wondering what programs do you recommend for doing live
micro tonal and sample compositions...

i know i will get ableton live and max/msp but beyond that i have no idea.

p.s. i am not intending to spend more then a few dollers on software
because i'm laying down over 3000 on hardware... so these programs
should be free... burned or stealable!

thank you

-moss

p.s.s. I'm really interested in being able to automate musical
responses to another musical source... so one track say played a
certain note or series of notes when another source played a certain
trigger note or melody.

> p.s.s. I'm really interested in being able to automate musical
> responses to another musical source... so one track say played a
> certain note or series of notes when another source played a certain
> trigger note or melody.

Max/MSP is the perfect tool for that kind of thing. Since you
mentioned not paying for software, you probably COULD steal it... or
you could use PureData which actually IS free-and-open-source, and
sleep with a better conscience.

Chris

what are the differences between that and max/msp...

also is max.msp that difficult to just jump into as i've been told?

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The functionality is almost identical, some objects only exist for one
or the other, and the general advantages and disadvantages between
commericial and open source projects. Both were originally designed
by Miller Puckette.

I think learning curves vary between people. I learned the basics in
a semester at uni. and got faster/better at putting things together
over the next few years. <plug> I'm willing to give personal
"lessons" to anyone who wants to learn quickly! </plug>

It's not as easy as Live or whatever, but it does the job when you
need custom environments, and is easier (IMO) to learn then csound or
supercollider, though they each have their advantages as well...

Chris

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> what are the differences between that and max/msp...
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> also is max.msp that difficult to just jump into as i've been told?
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does anyone know anyone who uses this... do they find it a better and more cost effect replacement to a traditional labtop/desk top rig??

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At 05:26 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
>> p.s.s. I'm really interested in being able to automate musical
>> responses to another musical source... so one track say played a
>> certain note or series of notes when another source played a certain
>> trigger note or melody.
>
>Max/MSP is the perfect tool for that kind of thing. Since you
>mentioned not paying for software, you probably COULD steal it... or
>you could use PureData which actually IS free-and-open-source, and
>sleep with a better conscience.

Sorry to troll, but I don't think "stealing" is the right word
for digital piracy. Neither is piracy. Unauthorized copying is
the best thing I can think of at the moment.

-Carl

At 06:18 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
>The functionality is almost identical,

Have you seen Max 5? Also, Max/MSP is a much more
mature system; what's the Pd analog of Jitter?

-Carl

> At 06:18 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
> >The functionality is almost identical,
>
> Have you seen Max 5? Also, Max/MSP is a much more
> mature system; what's the Pd analog of Jitter?

Not until I just looked at the webpage now. I saw some nice objects,
but the actual interface looks relatively unchanged (why would you
change it, it works well!), and that's what I was saying is almost
identical to pd.

I haven't tried gem on pd for video (or jitter when I used max) to
know how similar they are.

Chris

>> Have you seen Max 5?
>
>Not until I just looked at the webpage now. I saw some nice objects,
>but the actual interface looks relatively unchanged (why would you
>change it, it works well!), and that's what I was saying is almost
>identical to pd.

It's the little changes that count:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/10/08/first-max-5-preview-music-patching-the-next-generation/

>I haven't tried gem on pd for video (or jitter when I used max) to
>know how similar they are.

Hadn't heard of gem. Should have known there must be something.

-Carl

that they give lessons in PD should give you an idea of what it entails
but it is free.
the one thing i wanted to do has been a complete headache to do with someone who uses it.

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From: Carl Lumma [mailto:carl@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 01:23 PM
To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MMM] Soft ware for a rookie

At 05:26 AM 12/13/2007, you wrote:
>> p.s.s. I'm really interested in being able to automate musical
>> responses to another musical source... so one track say played a
>> certain note or series of notes when another source played a certain
>> trigger note or melody.
>
>Max/MSP is the perfect tool for that kind of thing. Since you
>mentioned not paying for software, you probably COULD steal it... or
>you could use PureData which actually IS free-and-open-source, and
>sleep with a better conscience.

Sorry to troll, but I don't think "stealing" is the right word
for digital piracy. Neither is piracy. Unauthorized copying is
the best thing I can think of at the moment.

-Carl

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> does anyone know anyone who uses this... do they find it a better and more cost effect replacement to a traditional labtop/desk top rig??

I have a Kyma system but it's old now. I doubt these days it'd be worth it if cost is an issue (but I don't know what the current offering's like or what you plan to do with it). Free software and commodity hardware are good enough for standard audio work. Maybe Kyma's better at certain tasks. It's aimed at professional studios where the cost doesn't matter as long as it does a better job or saves work time.

One problem is that it saves all your instruments in a proprietary format. Now I use Csound and, although I can copy some ideas, I can't check what I did in Kyma because I don't have a copy of it installed. Whereas if I move away from Csound I have all the orchestra files showing my intentions and readable in a standard text editor. I take the long view in that I don't want to keep relearning everything every few years as the technology moves on.

Graham

How to use it for microtonal music, please?

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson"
<aaron@...> wrote:
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <tamahome02000@> wrote:
> >
> > For windows, osx, & linux, does microtuning over sysex, plays giga,
> > dls, & akai samples. They're looking for feedback:
> >
> > http://www.linuxsampler.org
>
> This is a well-known mature project int the linux software world. One
> of the first places, too, that I heard of DLS.
>
> And, yes, microtuning without a scripting headache (Kontakt, etc.) is
> a huge plus.
>

hfmlacerda wrote:
> > > How to use it for microtonal music, please?

the features page says this :

Scale Tuning (via standard MIDI GS SysEx message)

from here :

http://www.linuxsampler.org/features.html

i dont know anything about MIDI GS though.

Try outputting to synth type '109: Roland GS & JV/XP families (12
tones)' in Scala, and loading the midi file in linux sampler.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "hfmlacerda" <hfmlacerda@...>
wrote:
>
> How to use it for microtonal music, please?
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Aaron Krister Johnson"
> <aaron@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <tamahome02000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > For windows, osx, & linux, does microtuning over sysex, plays giga,
> > > dls, & akai samples. They're looking for feedback:
> > >
> > > http://www.linuxsampler.org
> >
> > This is a well-known mature project int the linux software world. One
> > of the first places, too, that I heard of DLS.
> >
> > And, yes, microtuning without a scripting headache (Kontakt, etc.) is
> > a huge plus.
> >
>

Joe wrote:
> > > Try outputting to synth type '109: Roland GS & JV/XP families (12
> tones)' in Scala, and loading the midi file in linux sampler.

btw, there is a thread on KVR about the linux sampler and one of the developers appears amenable to adding better microtuning support but im not the best qualified person to explain the hows and whys (although im trying, mainly suggesting .scl support)

maybe one of you more knowledgeable sorts could pop by and point us in the right direction :)

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2882647

thanks,

Martin

Actually limited for many uses. It seems that it only supports 12 tones.

BTW, LinuxSampler could not play correctly my files generated with
abc2midi, using Single Note Tuning (to retune every of the 127 pitches):

Engine: Sysex message too large (12 byte) for input buffer (2048
byte)!Engine: Sysex message too large (12 byte) for input buffer (2048
byte)!Engine: Sysex message too large (12 byte) for input buffer (2048
byte)!Engine: Sysex message too large (12 byte) for input buffer (2048
byte)!Engine: Sysex message too large (12 byte) for input buffer (2048
[...]

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <tamahome02000@...> wrote:
>
> Try outputting to synth type '109: Roland GS & JV/XP families (12
> tones)' in Scala, and loading the midi file in linux sampler.
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "hfmlacerda" <hfmlacerda@>
> wrote:
> >
> > How to use it for microtonal music, please?