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Re: [MMM] Re: Improvisation in David Canright's 13 limit twelve tone.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/18/2002 8:42:28 PM

Robert!

Robert Walker wrote:

> I don't think I know about your Horagrams rhythms?

http://www.anaphoria.com/hora.PDF
from xenharmonikon ______

>
>
> I've been exploring some rhythms too following his ideas - the explorations of fibonacci
> rhythms in FTS is an outgrowth of his Fibonacci gamelan rhythms.

what is FTS

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm

🔗Jonathan M. Szanto <JSZANTO@...>

1/18/2002 11:46:12 PM

Kraig!

{you wrote...}
>what is FTS

What the hell, I'll put up some info (Robert can amplify if desired) - from the microtonal.org resource page:

Product/Tool: Fractal Tune Smithy
Home/Download: http://members.tripod.com/~robertinventor/ftsbeta.htm
Author: Robert Walker
Information: Originally an algo-comp program, Fractal Tune Smithy is now often used for microtonal composition / improvisation as well. Retunes to scale entered as cents, ratios or whatever. Uses pitch bends and re-mapping of midi channels to do this rather than tuning tables - so it will work with any GM compatible synth or soundcard. Includes many of the SCALA scales and modes, and one can use it to make a searchable drop lists of all the SCALA scales and all the SCALA modes.

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

1/19/2002 1:04:44 AM

Robert!
This scale is really interesting to me in that it has a big overlap with my Centaur
but takes a different turn see mine below his

Robert Walker wrote:

>
> 1/1 13/12 9/8 7/6 5/4 4/3 11/8 3/2 13/8 5/3 7/4 11/6 2/1
> from
>
> http://members.telocity.com/~acanright/piano/index.htm
>

1/1 13/12 9/8 7/6 5/4 4/3 11/8 3/2 13/8 5/3 7/4 11/6 2/1 David's

1/1 21/20 9/8 7/6 5/4 4/3 7/5 3/2 14/9 5/3 7/4 15/8 2/1 Kraig's

It illustrates how a slight preference for something can cause such interesting musical
shifts with David opting for higher harmonics and myself more 7-limit sub structures.

Possibly with some extra reeds i have around i can have his as an alternate on one of my
pump organs. Interesting enough http://www.anaphoria.com/trans22.PDF
on page 10 shows one way this scale could be expanded to 22 tones. Of course it would be
interesting to see what david would come up with without him knowing about it.

I think Rod Poole's 17 tone guitar has both of these 12 tone scales possibly, i can't
remember off hand

I am sure erv did not know about David's scale even though he developed a whole series of
designs called HelixSongs which had two harmonic series a fifth apart but always identical
i believe

One more related approach is the scale marked 12 in the middle on page 3 of
http://www.anaphoria.com/tres.PDF
which i thought i would mention as a different way of drawing upon two harmonic series a
fifth apart.

The whole 3/2 apart thing as i have mentioned before could be applied to the diamond.
two diamonds a 3/2 apart. Interestingly and with synchronicity I was thinking about a
diamond with 1-(3 or 9)-5-7-11-13 with a 1-3-5-7-9-11 a 3/2 above
which really reflects David's spirit here. now I'll really have to map it out!

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

The Wandering Medicine Show
Wed. 8-9 KXLU 88.9 fm