wiki weekend

Hello folks,

I am going to suggest and participate in a weekend of hopefully
intense wiki editing, at this wiki:
<http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com> with the following intents:

1. fill out the sections on scales that have been widely used (i'll be
focusing on equal tunings myself) - observations on moods and
tendencies, lists of favorite subsets, (modes), and so on.

2. integrate whatever pertinent knowledge is citeable from the old
Xenharmonikon periodical -- I'm in Urbana IL now and they have it at
the library -- into da wiki.

3. generate a discussion beginning from "Share a (microtonal) piece
that you are really passionate about."

4. come up with a plan for asking expert-type people to lend their
expertise towards the creation of articles. i have asked quartertone
saxophonist hayden chisholm (<www.softspeakers.com/sono/>!) for some
pedagogical type stuff and he said maybe.

5. make a family of pages pertaining to pedagogy. micro music for the
youngins. easy instrument building. 31 tone singin camp is going to
continue in some form this fall.

6. migrate everything from the 'old wiki' over to the One True Wiki.

The thing I'm still trying to prove to myself with this wiki is that
information might prefer to be accumulated in this way, openly,
collaboratively, yet with as much depth (or slightly more, or slightly
less) as is possible if you were writing an academic paper. Also, I
like making wiki pages that themselves become a call to ACTION in some
way.

Hope to see you there or anytime,
Jacob
who didn't finish his 19-tone piano piece :( but will be going to
Chicago :)

What a lonely wiki weekend that was. Just me and Hans. Unfortunately,
we weren't able to meet a single one of my 6 hopeful hopes. That's
fine! because the invitation continues to stand, to help us create a
beautiful, clever, consciousness-raising, useful website on
micromusicmaking. Do check out what it is now:

http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com

I'm particularly proud of the fancy new pretty picture I made and
Anatomy of the Equal Division (of the Octave) chart. and the
description of 'theory'. though it doesn't really make sense for
'non-western music traditions' to be exclusively under 'theory'.

Now there's an Ask Questions page where you can ask (and answer)
questions.

That wiki is happy to host a microtonal musicians' cooperative, which
is what I think Igliashon is proposing over on /tuning.

Thank you for your work. I noticed some nice improvements since I saw
it last. I meant to help out, but I didn't find the time. I'll try to
make some additions within the next week or so.

We seriously need more people to contribute pieces to the equal
temperaments page <http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Equal>. It's a
great opportunity to promote your work. I don't know why everyone is
being so shy. If we get more pieces, it will make it easier to study
the possibilities of particular equal temperaments. It's an unique
resource and I hope it will live up to its potential.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob"
<tricesimoprimalist@...> wrote:
>
> What a lonely wiki weekend that was. Just me and Hans.
Unfortunately,
> we weren't able to meet a single one of my 6 hopeful hopes. That's
> fine! because the invitation continues to stand, to help us create a
> beautiful, clever, consciousness-raising, useful website on
> micromusicmaking. Do check out what it is now:
>
> http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com
>
> I'm particularly proud of the fancy new pretty picture I made and
> Anatomy of the Equal Division (of the Octave) chart. and the
> description of 'theory'. though it doesn't really make sense for
> 'non-western music traditions' to be exclusively under 'theory'.
>
> Now there's an Ask Questions page where you can ask (and answer)
> questions.
>
> That wiki is happy to host a microtonal musicians' cooperative,
which
> is what I think Igliashon is proposing over on /tuning.
>

Jacob wrote:
> What a lonely wiki weekend that was. Just me and Hans. Unfortunately,
> we weren't able to meet a single one of my 6 hopeful hopes. That's
> fine! because the invitation continues to stand, to help us create a
> beautiful, clever, consciousness-raising, useful website on
> micromusicmaking. Do check out what it is now:

Well, it happens that last weekend was the single worst possible time for my schedule. But maybe next week when I have some time I could take a look and see if there's anything I could add.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Thompson"
<microtonaldan@...> wrote:
>
> We seriously need more people to contribute pieces to the equal
> temperaments page <http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Equal>. It's a
> great opportunity to promote your work. I don't know why everyone is
> being so shy. If we get more pieces, it will make it easier to study
> the possibilities of particular equal temperaments. It's an unique
> resource and I hope it will live up to its potential.
>

Well, I was asking myself whether the compositions on the equal
temperaments pages are to be a complete list of what exists or more
something like a list of "recommended things". In case of the latter,
entering one's own stuff would be comparable to what wikipedia calls
"vanity entries"... But having a complete list (at least as complete
as possible) would be a good thing, too. We can start going through th
elistening list and enter all the stuff we find, then.
--
Hans Straub

hstraub64 wrote:

> Well, I was asking myself whether the compositions on the equal
> temperaments pages are to be a complete list of what exists or more
> something like a list of "recommended things". In case of the latter,
> entering one's own stuff would be comparable to what wikipedia calls
> "vanity entries"... But having a complete list (at least as complete
> as possible) would be a good thing, too. We can start going through th
> elistening list and enter all the stuff we find, then.

I thought the point of using Wikispaces is that we aren't bound by Wikipedia's rules on vanity or original research.

Graham

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Graham Breed <gbreed@...> wrote:
>
> hstraub64 wrote:
>
> > Well, I was asking myself whether the compositions on the equal
> > temperaments pages are to be a complete list of what exists or more
> > something like a list of "recommended things". In case of the
> > latter, entering one's own stuff would be comparable to what
> > wikipedia calls "vanity entries"... But having a complete list (at
> > least as complete as possible) would be a good thing, too. We can
> > start going through th elistening list and enter all the stuff we
> > find, then.
>
> I thought the point of using Wikispaces is that we aren't
> bound by Wikipedia's rules on vanity or original research.
>

Oh, we are not bound to it, absolutely not. We just might run into a
similar problem that led to that particular rule on Wikipedia.

I take it that the list of compositions for every EDO is to be the
complete list, then. That will make things easy.
--
Hans Straub

> I take it that the list of compositions for every EDO is to be the
> complete list, then. That will make things easy.
> --
> Hans Straub

I think that makes sense. Every edo is it own little world. Until, the
wiki list takes off, we don't have a systematic way of studying the
repertoire of a particular edo. I personally want to hear the good, the
bad and the ugly. We can always have a recommended list when we have
more pieces to choose from. That's just my opinion, but if others share
it, then it might make a worthwhile project. There's also plenty of
room on the wiki if others would like to organise things differently.

Daniel Thompson

Hello,
sorry for not to participate on wiki weekend, but I didn't find the time for it.
Some time ago I put something on 5edo page as guest (88.103.85.96). If you find it usefull, I have similar info for other edos. It is in Czech unfortunately.
Milan

Hi Milan,

I also put links to information about Carrillo in Spanish that is not
available
in any other languages, therefore it is better than not having it!

On 2007/09/19, at 1:56, aum wrote:

> Hello,
> sorry for not to participate on wiki weekend, but I didn't find the
> time
> for it.
> Some time ago I put something on 5edo page as guest (88.103.85.96). If
> you find it usefull, I have similar info for other edos. It is in
> Czech
> unfortunately.
> Milan
>
>

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