Microtonal flutes

Hello people,

I am wondering about flutes specially designed for microtonal music.
Maybe some people here have already built microtonal flutes?

Lately I am trying to build /quenas/ in PVC. I am not a flutist so it
is not easy for me to get out sounds from /quenas/. Anyway, I have
built a few PVC /quenas/, including one designed for 17-EDO
(actually, I tuned it after Secor's 17-WT with A=440Hz).

I have plans to make a PVC /quenacho/ in 17-EDO and other /quenas/ in
17-EDO and 19-EDO.

So far, my references are:
http://www.fippless.org/Quena/
http://pacoweb.net/Instrumentos/Instrumen.html
http://www.es-aqui.com/payno/colabora/quena_plast.htm
http://www.navaching.com/shaku/taper.html
http://www.navaching.com/shaku/shakuindex.html
http://guido.gonzato.googlepages.com/whistle.html

I would like to share ideas and experiences about such microtonal
and/or PVC instruments.

Regards,
Hudson

Oh boy. I have one of those that I got in Peru, and I have yet to get
a proper sound out of it. Good luck, and let us know if you record
anything with them.

On 7/14/07, hfmlacerda <hfmlacerda@...> wrote:
> Hello people,
>
> I am wondering about flutes specially designed for microtonal music.
> Maybe some people here have already built microtonal flutes?
>
> Lately I am trying to build /quenas/ in PVC. I am not a flutist so it
> is not easy for me to get out sounds from /quenas/. Anyway, I have
> built a few PVC /quenas/, including one designed for 17-EDO
> (actually, I tuned it after Secor's 17-WT with A=440Hz).
>
> I have plans to make a PVC /quenacho/ in 17-EDO and other /quenas/ in
> 17-EDO and 19-EDO.
>
> So far, my references are:
> http://www.fippless.org/Quena/
> http://pacoweb.net/Instrumentos/Instrumen.html
> http://www.es-aqui.com/payno/colabora/quena_plast.htm
> http://www.navaching.com/shaku/taper.html
> http://www.navaching.com/shaku/shakuindex.html
> http://guido.gonzato.googlepages.com/whistle.html
>
> I would like to share ideas and experiences about such microtonal
> and/or PVC instruments.
>
> Regards,
> Hudson

--Tristan
http://dolor-sit-amet.deviantart.com

Greetings,

My composition teacher from a zillion years ago did some work on the
design of a flute. It may be something worth following up. But I
don't know anything about it...

Levin, Gregory (John). Composer, teacher, pianist, conductor, b
Washington, DC, 8 Mar 1943, naturalized Canadian 1989; BA (Harvard)
1967, MFA (Brandeis) 1969, PH D (Brandeis) 1975. He studied
composition with Luciano Berio, Pierre Boulez, Leon Kirchner, and
Billy Jim Layton, and piano with Louise Vosgerchian at Harvard
1960-7, and also piano privately in Boston with Margaret Chaloff. At
Brandeis U he studied composition 1967-70 with Arthur Berger, Martin
Boykan, and Seymour Shifrin, and earned his doctorate in music
theory. He taught at Syracuse U 1970-72 and at the University of
Rhode Island 1972-3. In 1973 Levin began to teach theory and
composition at the University of Calgary. He was a fellow at the
Institut de recherche et coordination acoustique/musique in Paris in
1978, where he did research and development for a flute that could
accommodate special effects needed in new music. Levin has conducted
ensembles, both in New England and Calgary; he was artistic and
musical director of the Calgary Chamber Players 1974-6, and of
Foothills Opera Company 1976-8. He has received commissions in both
the US and Canada, including six from the CBC and five from the
Canada Council, as well as from the Da Camera Players (Music for
Winds and Harpsichord, 1974), the OAC (Electric Gospel, 1980), the
Calgary Philharmonic (Flowers of Padua, 1984), and the Calgary
Institute for the Humanities (Spiral Staircase, 1985, rev 1987). In
1978 Berandol published Red Shift (1971), Dialogues (1968), 'Come
Away, Death' (1961), 'False Friend' (1975), and 'O Mistress
Mine' (1961), and in 1980 Woyzeck (1975). Spring Tide (1966?) was
published by New Proteus in 1974.

All best wishes,

Gordon Rumson

>
> On 7/14/07, hfmlacerda <hfmlacerda@...> wrote:
>> Hello people,
>>
>> I am wondering about flutes specially designed for microtonal music.
>> Maybe some people here have already built microtonal flutes?
>>
>> Lately I am trying to build /quenas/ in PVC. I am not a flutist so it
>> is not easy for me to get out sounds from /quenas/. Anyway, I have
>> built a few PVC /quenas/, including one designed for 17-EDO
>> (actually, I tuned it after Secor's 17-WT with A=440Hz).
>>
>> I have plans to make a PVC /quenacho/ in 17-EDO and other /quenas/ in
>> 17-EDO and 19-EDO.
>>
>> So far, my references are:
>> http://www.fippless.org/Quena/
>> http://pacoweb.net/Instrumentos/Instrumen.html
>> http://www.es-aqui.com/payno/colabora/quena_plast.htm
>> http://www.navaching.com/shaku/taper.html
>> http://www.navaching.com/shaku/shakuindex.html
>> http://guido.gonzato.googlepages.com/whistle.html
>>
>> I would like to share ideas and experiences about such microtonal
>> and/or PVC instruments.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hudson
>
> --Tristan
> http://dolor-sit-amet.deviantart.com
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

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Robert Rich has a lot of pvc flutes in just tunings. Here's a faq on
how to make one. I think on Somnium the flute is in slow motion.

http://robertrich.com/rrfaqpvcflute.html

This guy has some diy vids about making flutes. The fingerhole one
has a nice trick with a rubber band.

http://youtube.com/user/Junkdojo

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "hfmlacerda" <hfmlacerda@...>
wrote:
>
> Hello people,
>
> I am wondering about flutes specially designed for microtonal music.
> Maybe some people here have already built microtonal flutes?
>
> Lately I am trying to build /quenas/ in PVC. I am not a flutist so it
> is not easy for me to get out sounds from /quenas/. Anyway, I have
> built a few PVC /quenas/, including one designed for 17-EDO
> (actually, I tuned it after Secor's 17-WT with A=440Hz).
>
> I have plans to make a PVC /quenacho/ in 17-EDO and other /quenas/ in
> 17-EDO and 19-EDO.
>
> So far, my references are:
> http://www.fippless.org/Quena/
> http://pacoweb.net/Instrumentos/Instrumen.html
> http://www.es-aqui.com/payno/colabora/quena_plast.htm
> http://www.navaching.com/shaku/taper.html
> http://www.navaching.com/shaku/shakuindex.html
> http://guido.gonzato.googlepages.com/whistle.html
>
> I would like to share ideas and experiences about such microtonal
> and/or PVC instruments.
>
> Regards,
> Hudson
>

Hello.

Thanks for the responses.

I found interesting sites about flute acoustics:
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/flute/virtual/main.html
http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/flute/
http://www.cwo.com/%7Eph_kosel/designs.html
http://www.rogo.com/folkstuff/fluteinstruct.html
http://www.cwo.com/%7Eph_kosel/flutomat.html
http://www.cwo.com/%7Eph_kosel/Flutomat-8.html

The later ones allow to design tube length and finger holes positions
and diameters from math.

I have made an adaptation from the ``flutomat'' javascript code to GNU
Octave language. It is useful to get approximate dimensions for an
arbitrary flute. When (and if) Peter Kosel allows, I will publish and
share this code here.

By the way, I am just starting to get some sound out from my PVC
quenas... ;-)

Cheers,
Hudson

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Rozencrantz the Sane"
<rozencrantz@...> wrote:
>
> Oh boy. I have one of those that I got in Peru, and I have yet to get
> a proper sound out of it. Good luck, and let us know if you record
> anything with them.
>
> On 7/14/07, hfmlacerda <hfmlacerda@...> wrote:
> > Hello people,
> >
> > I am wondering about flutes specially designed for microtonal music.
> > Maybe some people here have already built microtonal flutes?
> >
> > Lately I am trying to build /quenas/ in PVC. I am not a flutist so it
> > is not easy for me to get out sounds from /quenas/. Anyway, I have
> > built a few PVC /quenas/, including one designed for 17-EDO
> > (actually, I tuned it after Secor's 17-WT with A=440Hz).
> >
> > I have plans to make a PVC /quenacho/ in 17-EDO and other /quenas/ in
> > 17-EDO and 19-EDO.
> >
> > So far, my references are:
> > http://www.fippless.org/Quena/
> > http://pacoweb.net/Instrumentos/Instrumen.html
> > http://www.es-aqui.com/payno/colabora/quena_plast.htm
> > http://www.navaching.com/shaku/taper.html
> > http://www.navaching.com/shaku/shakuindex.html
> > http://guido.gonzato.googlepages.com/whistle.html
> >
> > I would like to share ideas and experiences about such microtonal
> > and/or PVC instruments.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hudson
>
> --Tristan
> http://dolor-sit-amet.deviantart.com
>