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Dear Mats,

I guess you are playing around with the normal
expectations of the harmonic rhythmicon?
To me this sounds a bit like the classic rythmicon,
but using something like harmonic proportions for
the rhythm instead of measured tuplets, and the
tuning sounds tempered to me. It may be you are
using a semi-large numbered ET and then placing
each pitch in duration steps related to the scale
location in the ET. Am I close? I'm curious to hear your
explanation. I may be completely off, but I enjoyed
listening.

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/42577920/passacaglia.mp3.html
>
> Here's something i made trying out a new approach. I'm not gonna tell
> anything yet about the tuning, or the composition, but i want to see
> if anyone here manages to figure out the "secret"....
>

🔗Aaron Andrew Hunt <aahunt@...>

Ligeti's Poème symphonique also comes to mind.

Yours,
Aaron Hunt
H-Pi Instruments

🔗Prent Rodgers <prentrodgers@...>

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

🔗Mats Öljare <oljare@...>

The Rhytmicon comparison is not out of place, but it was in fact
inspired by the "Whitney" generator as posted and discussed here:

/metatuning/topicId_10828.html#10828

As some have been able to tell, each pitch always repeats at the same
tempo, a tempo which is directly related to the pitch. This is
accomplished by simply starting with a single note played as a loop,
then transposing it in Sound Forge, changing both pitch and tempo, and
mixing it all.

Also using a program i made in QBasic (which severely limits the sound
choices as well as being very slow to process) i can set tempo
independent of the pitch, to for example reverse the order from high
to low, but any other correlation does not give the effect of
overtones always being played together.

Funny how many described the scale as non-just, when it is in fact a
just Genus 3 3 3 5 7. Genus scales are especially suitable for this,
both because they have multiple tonics which makes the structure less
linear one-dimensional, and because they actually require less work as
only each factor, not every note in the scale, need to be individually
transposed.

Considering the possibilities of selecting pitches, adding and
removing notes afterwards, and selecting pitch and tempo separately, i
think there is potential for an altogether new system of composition here!

Here's another real long one, based on the overtones 16-32:

http://rapidshare.com/files/42750894/over32.mp3.html

I have even more ideas for scales and structures to use, but it would
be easier if they weren't so time consuming to make... sigh.

🔗Mats Öljare <oljare@...>

I uploaded some more demonstrations here. I hesitate to call them
compositions! Hopefully this should work without problems for anyone
here. This is what is in it:

Genus 3 3 3 5 7 in a different rendering than the first.

41-tet, nothing special here.

Overtones 8-32 with equally spaced beats (that is, tone number 8 on
every 8 beats, 9 on every 9 beats etc) rather than divided tempos. You
can also think of this as a subharmonic series of tempos, though the
pitches are harmonics.

Overtones 16-64, same idea.

http://rapidshare.com/files/43280236/spectral_serialism.zip.html

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

I finally clicked through everything and got your first
file (passacaglia). Now this is telling me I've passed the
download limit for free users. So I can't download this
file. :(

-Carl

At 11:53 AM 7/16/2007, you wrote:
>I uploaded some more demonstrations here. I hesitate to call them
>compositions! Hopefully this should work without problems for anyone
>here. This is what is in it:
>
>Genus 3 3 3 5 7 in a different rendering than the first.
>
>41-tet, nothing special here.
>
>Overtones 8-32 with equally spaced beats (that is, tone number 8 on
>every 8 beats, 9 on every 9 beats etc) rather than divided tempos. You
>can also think of this as a subharmonic series of tempos, though the
>pitches are harmonics.
>
>Overtones 16-64, same idea.
>
>http://rapidshare.com/files/43280236/spectral_serialism.zip.html
>
>
>
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

🔗Mats Öljare <oljare@...>

Alright, i'm posting one more set of these demonstrations here. Due to
the poor feedback i'm getting, they will probably be the last. The
tunings used here are:

n*(n+1) series, from 6*7 to 48*49.

Overtones 16-32, repeated in octaves.

Overtones 8-16 multiplied (rather than divided) by themselves in a
Tonality Diamond-like structure, and repeated in octaves.

http://rapidshare.com/files/44046695/more.zip.html

🔗Chris Bryan <chris@...>

Hi Mats,

By "poor feedback," do you mean in quality or quantity?

I did listen to the first couple, I'd love to have given a detailed response
if I wasn't so busy with my own projects :) I did pick up on the fact that
you said they were time-consuming to compose: this kind of process-based
music is really easy to setup and play in languages like csound or pd, so if
you're interested in continuing I'd be happy to give you some pointers!

-Chris Bryan

On 20/07/07, Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
>
> Alright, i'm posting one more set of these demonstrations here. Due to
> the poor feedback i'm getting, they will probably be the last. The
> tunings used here are:
>
> n*(n+1) series, from 6*7 to 48*49.
>
> Overtones 16-32, repeated in octaves.
>
> Overtones 8-16 multiplied (rather than divided) by themselves in a
> Tonality Diamond-like structure, and repeated in octaves.
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/44046695/more.zip.html
>
>
>

--
"The future of faith does not lie in the declaration of certainties, but in
the living out of uncertainty." -Barry Taylor

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🔗Mats Öljare <oljare@...>

http://rapidshare.com/files/44545073/more.zip.html

Here's the very last and final set i will post here. The tunings are:

Harmonics 4, 5, 6, 7 multiplied by each of themselves, and by
themselves again, for a total of 20 pitches.

(4*4*4, 4*4*5, 4*4*6, 4*4*7, 4*5*5, 4*5*6, 4*5*7, 4*6*6, 4*6*7, 4*7*7,
5*5*5, 5*5*6, 5*5*7, 5*6*6, 5*6*7, 5*7*7,
6*6*6, 6*6*7, 6*7*7, 7*7*7)

Difference tones of subharmonics 1-8

Sum tones of subharmonics 1-8

1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 Eikosany

🔗Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...>

This page doesn't look like it contains anything with music files at all.

Might I suggest you uppload things to a real server, or at the very
least, the 'files' section of this list?

Free web hosting is worth exactly what you pay for it--nothing.

-A.

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
>
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/44545073/more.zip.html
>
> Here's the very last and final set i will post here. The tunings are:
>
> Harmonics 4, 5, 6, 7 multiplied by each of themselves, and by
> themselves again, for a total of 20 pitches.
>
> (4*4*4, 4*4*5, 4*4*6, 4*4*7, 4*5*5, 4*5*6, 4*5*7, 4*6*6, 4*6*7, 4*7*7,
> 5*5*5, 5*5*6, 5*5*7, 5*6*6, 5*6*7, 5*7*7,
> 6*6*6, 6*6*7, 6*7*7, 7*7*7)
>
> Difference tones of subharmonics 1-8
>
> Sum tones of subharmonics 1-8
>
> 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 Eikosany
>

🔗Rozencrantz the Sane <rozencrantz@...>

On the contrary, I have been very happy with Google Pages. It's not
the most space in the world, but it's better than nothing. I will
gladly invite anyone who contacts me off-list.

On 7/25/07, Aaron Krister Johnson <aaron@...> wrote:
> This page doesn't look like it contains anything with music files at all.
>
> Might I suggest you uppload things to a real server, or at the very
> least, the 'files' section of this list?
>
> Free web hosting is worth exactly what you pay for it--nothing.
>
> -A.

--Tristan
http://dolor-sit-amet.deviantart.com

🔗Jay Rinkel <jrinkel@...>

It is irritating -- what one needs to do is scroll down to the bottom of
the first page you will see and click on the "free" button, then on the
next page, if you really don't want to pay money to be a premium member
there should be a little box somewhere in the middle of the next page
where you can type in a code to download the file. I downloaded it and
listening to it. It contains 4 mp3 files.

Your point is still valid.

Jay

On Wed, 2007-07-25 at 22:06 +0000, Aaron Krister Johnson wrote:
> This page doesn't look like it contains anything with music files at
> all.
>
> Might I suggest you uppload things to a real server, or at the very
> least, the 'files' section of this list?
>
> Free web hosting is worth exactly what you pay for it--nothing.
>
> -A.
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Mats Öljare <oljare@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > http://rapidshare.com/files/44545073/more.zip.html
> >
> > Here's the very last and final set i will post here. The tunings
> are:
> >
> > Harmonics 4, 5, 6, 7 multiplied by each of themselves, and by
> > themselves again, for a total of 20 pitches.
> >
> > (4*4*4, 4*4*5, 4*4*6, 4*4*7, 4*5*5, 4*5*6, 4*5*7, 4*6*6, 4*6*7,
> 4*7*7,
> > 5*5*5, 5*5*6, 5*5*7, 5*6*6, 5*6*7, 5*7*7,
> > 6*6*6, 6*6*7, 6*7*7, 7*7*7)
> >
> > Difference tones of subharmonics 1-8
> >
> > Sum tones of subharmonics 1-8
> >
> > 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 Eikosany
> >
>
>
>
>
>