chorus effect

Just curious what the philosophy of any JI users out there is regarding using a chorus effect---one would think that it goes against the whole point and philosophy of trying to be beatless/and or very precisely beating at certain rates.

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I don't think it goes against JI philosophy. Most JI practicioners are happy to be in the ballpark of perfect JI I think. The reason I like JI is not because I dislike beats, it is because I dislike inharmonic difference tones. All chorus does is it blurs the spectrum a bit. That will blur difference tones too and that is okay because they will still sound harmonious..

On Wed, 23 May 2007, Aaron K. Johnson wrote:

>
> Just curious what the philosophy of any JI users out there is regarding
> using a chorus effect---one would think that it goes against the whole
> point and philosophy of trying to be beatless/and or very precisely
> beating at certain rates.
>
> We're taking calls at the 'MMM' and 'tuning' Yahoo! groups....Ok,
> caller, you're on the air.
>

The point of JI (to me) is to have control of intonation. A chorus effect
is just another intonation control, so no problem if it's the sound you
want.

>
> Just curious what the philosophy of any JI users out there is regarding
> using a chorus effect---one would think that it goes against the whole
> point and philosophy of trying to be beatless/and or very precisely
> beating at certain rates.
>
> We're taking calls at the 'MMM' and 'tuning' Yahoo! groups....Ok,
> caller, you're on the air.
>

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obviously i do beat all the time.
I just prefer to do them with pitch.
The question is not beatless but by being unambiguous in perception, on can lead the listener any where one wants, including being ambiguous.
Also one can control the rate of chorus effects.
Beyond the Windows is a good example of this

Aaron K. Johnson wrote:
>
>
> Just curious what the philosophy of any JI users out there is regarding
> using a chorus effect---one would think that it goes against the whole
> point and philosophy of trying to be beatless/and or very precisely
> beating at certain rates.
>
> We're taking calls at the 'MMM' and 'tuning' Yahoo! groups....Ok,
> caller, you're on the air.
>
> -- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

I think Kraig has a good response.

I think the value of JI is not about exact precision, but about having
a theoretical model that resembles our aural perception, despite
slight variations.

Beyond chorus, I regularly program pitch deviations of a couple of
cents into my electronic music. Ironically, breaking up the
super-perceptual exactness of the ratios actually *enhances* the
perception of them, IMO.

Chris Bryan

>
> obviously i do beat all the time.
> I just prefer to do them with pitch.
> The question is not beatless but by being unambiguous in perception, on
> can lead the listener any where one wants, including being ambiguous.
> Also one can control the rate of chorus effects.
> Beyond the Windows is a good example of this
>
> Aaron K. Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just curious what the philosophy of any JI users out there is regarding
> > using a chorus effect---one would think that it goes against the whole
> > point and philosophy of trying to be beatless/and or very precisely
> > beating at certain rates.
> >
> > We're taking calls at the 'MMM' and 'tuning' Yahoo! groups....Ok,
> > caller, you're on the air.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles
>
> -- "The future of faith does not lie in the declaration of certainties,
but in the living out of uncertainty." -Barry Taylor