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Re: [MMM] Re: Holocene...

🔗Julian Silverman <julian.silverman@...>

5/16/2007 2:58:02 AM

It's not just you. All human beings have responsibilities towards their
fellow human beings. This is what we call politics. I don't think that a
composer as composer has any particular extra social responsibility in
the immediate sense, than anyone else. But he does have a responsibility
towards his art: its

daniel_anthony_stearns wrote:
>
> hmm, i like both you guys, and your music!, so don't hate me,ok.
> BUT.... i really disagree with this--not so much on the grounds of
> aesthetics and preferences, as EVERYBODY exaggerates and preaches in
> the direction of their interest and i'm fine with that (and no less
> guilty i'm sure). But what i disagree with is the assumption that
> everyone, or even anyone else besides someone who's so inclined,
> should want to "make inroads into popular consciousness" or anything
> that,well, "sound more pleasant". I have no real disagreements with
> this per se. It's only when someone else is trying to say that maybe
> that's what I or someone besides themselves should do if they want to
> do it right and good.
>
> Personally, i think music is at its best when it at least attempts to
> address some poetry of life, some hard to explain but easy to feel
> resonance that stirs something deeper than notes and tunings and
> instruments and form and all the rest. For me, music is much more
> about imagination, and creativity, than it is anything else... and if
> that's a rough road with bumps and dust and detours (that might lead
> you off the map and even astray), so be it, and all the better for
> it ! But THAT'S ME, and i really ,honestly wouldn't expect anyone
> else to have to do it that way to make something worth the while.
> Ok...i feel better now! daniel
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:MakeMicroMusic%40yahoogroups.com>, "Igliashon Jones"
> <igliashon@...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you most kindly, Mr. Smith! I'm glad to hear you appreciated
> my
> > efforts. My point was indeed to make these tunes accessible, though
> > as some have pointed out to me, they are quite "dated" sounding (as
> in
> > they'd probably be more at home in the musical climate of 1987 than
> > 2007) due to the FM-synth sounds and the general low-end digital
> > production quality.
> >
> > However, the pop-song format employed in most of them is, I think,
> > more appropriate for some of the less low-limit-consonant EDOs like
> 16
> > and 11...when I hear composers come at those EDOs from a classical
> > background, I can't help but think that the resulting compositions
> are
> > the audio equivalent of Vin Diesel trying to squeeze into a slinky
> > prom dress. Really, the secret to making a lot of these tunings
> sound
> > good is just to not get ambitious with them: find a simple tonality,
> > stick to it, and avoid complex vertical structures. Lots of
> > alternative tonalities do contain familiar progressions, and keeping
> > just enough familiarity helps things sound more pleasant. And don't
> > be afraid to add some groovin' beats. An interesting beat, I have
> > found, can make even the dullest composition sound good.
> >
> > Thanks for listening!
> > -Igs
> > >
> > >
> > > Igliashon, you wrote:
> > >
> > > "I just uploaded 5 new songs to my microtonal music page at the
> above
> > > address..."
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Congrats, these are most excellent! My favorites of these
> are "She Is My
> > > Lilac-Hued Obsession" and "Illegible Red Ink". Just goes to show
> how
> > > difficult tunings can be turned to beautiful music in the hands
> of an
> > > artiste with good taste. The rest of us need to take notes -- pun
> > > intended.
> > >
> > > (Most of my "microtonalist" compadres are their own worst enemy,
> I'm
> > > afraid. Ear-cringing, spine-shuddering "xenharmonies" and gnarly
> timbres
> > > do not a good case for alternate tunings make.)
> > >
> > > If new tunings are to be accepted and used generally, they must
> first
> > > make inroads into popular consciousness -- your music employs
> these
> > > tunings in a way that is both easily absorbed and enjoyable. Very
> well
> > > done indeed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > jls
> > >
> >
>
>

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