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Re: [MMM] re: Ives' quartertones

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

5/7/2007 6:06:00 PM

J.Smith wrote:

> You bet. This is the first time I've heard these works, and I really
> enjoyed them-- especially the Allegro. Did Ives write any other
> quarter-tone works?

His Fourth Symphony contains quarter tones. I recently bought a CD containing that one, and it's one of my all-time favorite works of music now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_quarter_tone_pieces

The article only mentions that and the other for Ives; I wish I knew if he ever wrote any other quarter tone works.

~D.

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

5/7/2007 8:16:47 PM

At 06:29 PM 5/7/2007, you wrote:
>that's it really, those two; though the quartertone piano in the 4th
>is pretty submerged in the overall texture of the piece. BTW, the
>finale in the 4th IS my all-time favorite piece of music!

There are four of these? Or are you talking about the 4th
symphony?

-Carl

🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

5/8/2007 7:24:31 AM

daniel_anthony_stearns wrote:

> that's it really, those two; though the quartertone piano in the 4th
> is pretty submerged in the overall texture of the piece. BTW, the
> finale in the 4th IS my all-time favorite piece of music!

The quarter tones are in the first part of the second movement, and in the strings as well as the piano, I think - I haven't seen the score, but I can hear them easily. It's more than just effect.

But I think my favorite movement is the third, which is neither microtonal nor atonal, and reminds me of G�recki's Third Symphony, nice and melancholy.

And Johnny Reinhard wrote:

> Gee, after all this time, you guys still don't realize that the Universe
> Symphony by Charles Ives contains quartertones, in diverse places > throughout.

I'm gonna have to get a recording of that one next, along with The Unanswered Question.

~D.

🔗Afmmjr@...

5/8/2007 8:57:24 AM

Dan -- you can see The Unanswered Question at _www.afmm.org_
(http://www.afmm.org) for free
by clicking on the right video, but you must have broadband. The tuning is
extended Pythagorean tuning, a tuning which fulfills all the expectations of
Ives' music theory.

best, Johnny Reinhard

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🔗Danny Wier <dawiertx@...>

5/8/2007 11:49:39 AM

Thanks, and I needed to hear it in something other than 12-tet. This and the other videos 'll keep me busy listening for a while.

And I just now found out about Ives' unfinished symphony and your version of it. (I'm new to MMM, so I still need to get caught up.)

~D.

----- Original Message ----- From: <Afmmjr@...>
To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [MMM] re: Ives' quartertones

> Dan -- you can see The Unanswered Question at _www.afmm.org_
> (http://www.afmm.org) for free
> by clicking on the right video, but you must have broadband. The tuning > is
> extended Pythagorean tuning, a tuning which fulfills all the expectations > of
> Ives' music theory.
>
> best, Johnny Reinhard