here is what i responding to

these are what you referred to my 'blathering' as being non related to

I see basically two limitations of JI. I wouldn't call them problems;
more constraints, really. Constraints can be useful for inspiration; all
tuning systems have them. But the limitations of JI include:

1. Electronic timbres, which can sound lifeless if you're not careful,
can have issues with partials canceling or reinforcing each other,
resulting in a sort of "mechanical" sound. JI works better with acoustic
timbres, where you've got two or more sound sources physically separated
in space. Slightly detuning intervals -- including octaves -- can help
to bring electronic timbres to life and keep separate melodic lines
distinct.

2. Commas. With JI, you need to worry about the various commas and what
you can do to avoid them, hide comma shifts, or just take the resulting
dissonant intervals as extra spice to flavor the sound. Temperament
gives you other options, such as making the commas vanish, shrinking
them, enlarging them to a size that works better as a melodic step, or
even making them go negative.
--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

It looks like the video has been taken down, but I do not remember
any of this in the interview. Where is this from?

-Carl

At 10:34 AM 4/9/2007, you wrote:
>these are what you referred to my 'blathering' as being non related to
>
>I see basically two limitations of JI. I wouldn't call them problems;
>more constraints, really. Constraints can be useful for inspiration; all
>tuning systems have them. But the limitations of JI include:
>
>1. Electronic timbres, which can sound lifeless if you're not careful,
>can have issues with partials canceling or reinforcing each other,
>resulting in a sort of "mechanical" sound. JI works better with acoustic
>timbres, where you've got two or more sound sources physically separated
>in space. Slightly detuning intervals -- including octaves -- can help
>to bring electronic timbres to life and keep separate melodic lines
>distinct.
>
>2. Commas. With JI, you need to worry about the various commas and what
>you can do to avoid them, hide comma shifts, or just take the resulting
>dissonant intervals as extra spice to flavor the sound. Temperament
>gives you other options, such as making the commas vanish, shrinking
>them, enlarging them to a size that works better as a melodic step, or
>even making them go negative.
>--
>Kraig Grady
>North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
>The Wandering Medicine Show
>KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

the tuning list where i responded to it, perhaps i should have included the quote to make that clearer. my fault.
it was posted by herman miller, who i have no problem with btw

Carl Lumma wrote:
>
> It looks like the video has been taken down, but I do not remember
> any of this in the interview. Where is this from?
>
> -Carl
>
> At 10:34 AM 4/9/2007, you wrote:
> >these are what you referred to my 'blathering' as being non related to
> >
> >I see basically two limitations of JI. I wouldn't call them problems;
> >more constraints, really. Constraints can be useful for inspiration; all
> >tuning systems have them. But the limitations of JI include:
> >
> >1. Electronic timbres, which can sound lifeless if you're not careful,
> >can have issues with partials canceling or reinforcing each other,
> >resulting in a sort of "mechanical" sound. JI works better with acoustic
> >timbres, where you've got two or more sound sources physically separated
> >in space. Slightly detuning intervals -- including octaves -- can help
> >to bring electronic timbres to life and keep separate melodic lines
> >distinct.
> >
> >2. Commas. With JI, you need to worry about the various commas and what
> >you can do to avoid them, hide comma shifts, or just take the resulting
> >dissonant intervals as extra spice to flavor the sound. Temperament
> >gives you other options, such as making the commas vanish, shrinking
> >them, enlarging them to a size that works better as a melodic step, or
> >even making them go negative.
> >--
> >Kraig Grady
> >North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island > <http://anaphoria.com/index.html <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>>
> >The Wandering Medicine Show
> >KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp > <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp>> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles
>
> -- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

Sorry!

-Carl

At 10:47 AM 4/9/2007, you wrote:
>the tuning list where i responded to it, perhaps i should have included
>the quote to make that clearer. my fault.
> it was posted by herman miller, who i have no problem with btw
>
>Carl Lumma wrote:
>>
>> It looks like the video has been taken down, but I do not remember
>> any of this in the interview. Where is this from?
>>
>> -Carl
>>
>> At 10:34 AM 4/9/2007, you wrote:
>> >these are what you referred to my 'blathering' as being non related to
>> >
>> >I see basically two limitations of JI. I wouldn't call them problems;
>> >more constraints, really. Constraints can be useful for inspiration; all
>> >tuning systems have them. But the limitations of JI include:
>> >
>> >1. Electronic timbres, which can sound lifeless if you're not careful,
>> >can have issues with partials canceling or reinforcing each other,
>> >resulting in a sort of "mechanical" sound. JI works better with acoustic
>> >timbres, where you've got two or more sound sources physically separated
>> >in space. Slightly detuning intervals -- including octaves -- can help
>> >to bring electronic timbres to life and keep separate melodic lines
>> >distinct.
>> >
>> >2. Commas. With JI, you need to worry about the various commas and what
>> >you can do to avoid them, hide comma shifts, or just take the resulting
>> >dissonant intervals as extra spice to flavor the sound. Temperament
>> >gives you other options, such as making the commas vanish, shrinking
>> >them, enlarging them to a size that works better as a melodic step, or
>> >even making them go negative.

my mistake for not quoting what i was commenting on

Carl Lumma wrote:
>
> Sorry!
>
> -Carl
>
> At 10:47 AM 4/9/2007, you wrote:
> >the tuning list where i responded to it, perhaps i should have included
> >the quote to make that clearer. my fault.
> > it was posted by herman miller, who i have no problem with btw
> >
> >Carl Lumma wrote:
> >>
> >> It looks like the video has been taken down, but I do not remember
> >> any of this in the interview. Where is this from?
> >>
> >> -Carl
> >>
> >> At 10:34 AM 4/9/2007, you wrote:
> >> >these are what you referred to my 'blathering' as being non related to
> >> >
> >> >I see basically two limitations of JI. I wouldn't call them problems;
> >> >more constraints, really. Constraints can be useful for > inspiration; all
> >> >tuning systems have them. But the limitations of JI include:
> >> >
> >> >1. Electronic timbres, which can sound lifeless if you're not careful,
> >> >can have issues with partials canceling or reinforcing each other,
> >> >resulting in a sort of "mechanical" sound. JI works better with > acoustic
> >> >timbres, where you've got two or more sound sources physically > separated
> >> >in space. Slightly detuning intervals -- including octaves -- can help
> >> >to bring electronic timbres to life and keep separate melodic lines
> >> >distinct.
> >> >
> >> >2. Commas. With JI, you need to worry about the various commas and > what
> >> >you can do to avoid them, hide comma shifts, or just take the > resulting
> >> >dissonant intervals as extra spice to flavor the sound. Temperament
> >> >gives you other options, such as making the commas vanish, shrinking
> >> >them, enlarging them to a size that works better as a melodic step, or
> >> >even making them go negative.
>
> -- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/index.html>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main/index.asp> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles