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Edirol R-09

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

9/21/2006 7:14:17 PM

Does anybody know if this .wav/.mp3 recorder can change recording
levels "on the fly?"

http://www.minidisco.com/

Kinda looks like it can't, but it's only a guess...

Thanks!

Joe

🔗Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>

9/21/2006 7:59:15 PM

JP,

{you wrote...}
>Does anybody know if this .wav/.mp3 recorder can change recording levels "on the fly?"

Apparently:

"It takes some practice to find the switches with your fingers, but it's really not that complicated and a few hours of daylight practice in the field should be enough to permit a recordist to use it in complete darkness. I think the switch buttons could be a bit larger and distinct to the touch, but that's because i have large hands. The more I use this box the handier it gets. Here's how a typical recording session might go, using the R-09's built-in mics.

With the box held in the right hand, the index finger finds the power switch and push/holds it for more than one half second which powers up the unit. 4.5 seconds elapse to boot the box. Press the REC button, which then flashes red and the bargraph meters in the backlit LCD display indicate the recording level. If OK, press REC again and you're recording. That simple. If the level needs adjustment, the up/down buttons are under the second finger of your right hand, and the level can be adjusted even during recording so there's really no need to hesitate in pushing the REC button twice to start without consulting the level meters first.

When adjusting the input level a small window appears in the display showing a numerical value for the level setting, from 0 to 30, but this is only visible while pressing the level adjustment buttons. I'd like it better if this information were available all the time during recording. Also this information, along with most of the other alphanumeric display windows, is very small. I'll repeat, very small. I have to use my reading glasses to see it."

Taken from the review at:
http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/yentis_r09.cfm

Remember: Google is your friend. :)

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

9/22/2006 7:23:31 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>
wrote:
>
> JP,
>
> {you wrote...}
> >Does anybody know if this .wav/.mp3 recorder can change recording
levels "on the fly?"
>
> Apparently:
>
> "It takes some practice to find the switches with your fingers,
but it's really not that complicated and a few hours of daylight
practice in the field should be enough to permit a recordist to use
it in complete darkness. I think the switch buttons could be a bit
larger and distinct to the touch, but that's because i have large
hands. The more I use this box the handier it gets. Here's how a
typical recording session might go, using the R-09's built-in mics.
>
> With the box held in the right hand, the index finger finds the
power switch and push/holds it for more than one half second which
powers up the unit. 4.5 seconds elapse to boot the box. Press the
REC button, which then flashes red and the bargraph meters in the
backlit LCD display indicate the recording level. If OK, press REC
again and you're recording. That simple. If the level needs
adjustment, the up/down buttons are under the second finger of your
right hand, and the level can be adjusted even during recording so
there's really no need to hesitate in pushing the REC button twice
to start without consulting the level meters first.
>
> When adjusting the input level a small window appears in the
display showing a numerical value for the level setting, from 0 to
30, but this is only visible while pressing the level adjustment
buttons. I'd like it better if this information were available all
the time during recording. Also this information, along with most of
the other alphanumeric display windows, is very small. I'll repeat,
very small. I have to use my reading glasses to see it."
>
> Taken from the review at:
> http://www.audiomidi.com/aboutus/reviews/yentis_r09.cfm
>
> Remember: Google is your friend. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>

***Thanks so much Jon for the tip on this, as ever! I think it
would have taken me forever to find this review...

Do you think this machine might be a good investment?? (Of course,
my MiniDisk player is still working, despite the inconvenience of
having to record analog to digital...)

Tx!

JP

🔗David Beardsley <db@...>

9/22/2006 7:30:08 PM

Joseph Pehrson wrote:

>Do you think this machine might be a good investment?? (Of course, >my MiniDisk player is still working, despite the inconvenience of >having to record analog to digital...)
> >

I always thought the MiniDisk was digital.

--
* David Beardsley
* microtonal guitar
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🔗Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>

9/22/2006 8:50:58 PM

db,

{you wrote...}
>I always thought the MiniDisk was digital.

While it includes it's own a/d convertor, it is difficult to get a digital signal out of them, save for special cables that only talk to certain (and these days obsolete) pieces of gear. Most people have to just take (yours truly included) have to take an analog l/r line out. The Edirol unit makes it very easy to upload the un-converted digital files.

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

9/22/2006 9:40:32 PM

At 08:50 PM 9/22/2006, you wrote:
>db,
>
>{you wrote...}
>>I always thought the MiniDisk was digital.
>
>While it includes it's own a/d convertor, it is difficult to get a
>digital signal out of them, save for special cables that only talk to
>certain (and these days obsolete) pieces of gear. Most people have to
>just take (yours truly included) have to take an analog l/r line out.
>The Edirol unit makes it very easy to upload the un-converted digital
>files.
>
>Cheers,
>Jon

I should point out that Sony purposely didn't include digital out
to stop copyright violations. Some (more expensive) home decks had
it, but the portable recorders never did. There was a hack for the
MZ-R50, which I sold for a song before I knew about.

They recently changed their ways. Here's the first portable
recorder with uninhibited digital out:

http://www.minidisco.com/Sony-MZ-RH1?sc=7&category=10

It's actually still inhibited -- it only does digital out for discs
that are marked as having been recorded from the mic jack. As opposed
to from the digital in or at a factory (yes, they used to sell music
on MD). The units have always had S/PDIF (optical digital) *in* for
making MD copies of CDs.

-Carl

🔗Joseph Pehrson <jpehrson@...>

9/23/2006 1:11:46 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>
wrote:
>
> db,
>
> {you wrote...}
> >I always thought the MiniDisk was digital.
>
> While it includes it's own a/d convertor, it is difficult to get a
digital signal out of them, save for special cables that only talk
to certain (and these days obsolete) pieces of gear. Most people
have to just take (yours truly included) have to take an analog l/r
line out. The Edirol unit makes it very easy to upload the un-
converted digital files.
>
> Cheers,
> Jon
>

***So whadaya think Jon? Good, bad, indifferent... or don't you
want to "stick your neck out" on this one...??

I take it you're not buying it tomorrow... ?? :)

Joe