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Harmonic Crossfader for Kontakt 2.1

🔗Robert Strauss <robert@...>

8/6/2006 8:40:19 AM

Hi everyone,
I've developed a midi controlled script for Kontakt 2.1 that crossfades microtuned samples against up to eight specified harmonics on sine and scalable cosine fade/rise curves. I think it gives Kontakt a bit of a JI afterburner...

You can check it out, along with an upgraded Scala 2 Kontakt Microtuner at http://www.12equalboresme.com

Regards,
Robert Strauss

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

8/6/2006 9:10:29 AM

At 08:40 AM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>I've developed a midi controlled script for Kontakt 2.1 that
>crossfades microtuned samples against up to eight specified harmonics
>on sine and scalable cosine fade/rise curves. I think it gives
>Kontakt a bit of a JI afterburner...
>
>You can check it out, along with an upgraded Scala 2 Kontakt
>Microtuner at http://www.12equalboresme.com
>
>Regards,
>Robert Strauss

I'm afraid I don't understand what it does...

But it does look like, thank to your script, Kontakt is the
tool of choice for microtonal music with samples.

-Carl

🔗Robert Strauss <robert@...>

8/6/2006 10:48:05 AM

Carl,
A little more technically, the Crossfader script plays a microtuned sample note and up to eight simultaneous instances of the note. From
the UI, the pitch of each of the eight instances can be set to a
rational fraction relative to the original note. Rather than just
play a 'wall' of these harmonics, the script tracks the instantaneous
value of a specified midi cc channel to set the overall mix of
original note and harmonic clones. From listening to crossfades where
the sounding note moves from all fundamental to all harmonic, I
realized that linear fades tend to have an annoying volume dip as the
relative volumes of fundamental and harmonics cross, so I switched to
a cosine/sine model that gives a more constant volume.

Like any effect, it can be tedious if overused, but the ability to
control simultaneous clone notes in Kontakt is an interesting feature for a sampler. Next up, I'll work on a microtonal constrain-to-scale
version that models sympathetic resonance. Thanks for your interest,
Robert

Quoting Carl Lumma <ekin@...>:

> At 08:40 AM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've developed a midi controlled script for Kontakt 2.1 that
>> crossfades microtuned samples against up to eight specified harmonics
>> on sine and scalable cosine fade/rise curves. I think it gives
>> Kontakt a bit of a JI afterburner...
>>
>> You can check it out, along with an upgraded Scala 2 Kontakt
>> Microtuner at http://www.12equalboresme.com
>>
>> Regards,
>> Robert Strauss
>
> I'm afraid I don't understand what it does...
>
> But it does look like, thank to your script, Kontakt is the
> tool of choice for microtonal music with samples.
>
> -Carl
>
>

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

8/6/2006 10:56:46 AM

At 10:48 AM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>Carl,
>A little more technically, the Crossfader script plays a microtuned
>sample note and up to eight simultaneous instances of the note. From
>the UI, the pitch of each of the eight instances can be set to a
>rational fraction relative to the original note. Rather than just
>play a 'wall' of these harmonics, the script tracks the instantaneous
>value of a specified midi cc channel to set the overall mix of
>original note and harmonic clones. From listening to crossfades where
>the sounding note moves from all fundamental to all harmonic, I
>realized that linear fades tend to have an annoying volume dip as the
>relative volumes of fundamental and harmonics cross, so I switched to
>a cosine/sine model that gives a more constant volume.

Gotcha!

>Like any effect, it can be tedious if overused, but the ability to
>control simultaneous clone notes in Kontakt is an interesting feature
>for a sampler. Next up, I'll work on a microtonal constrain-to-scale
>version that models sympathetic resonance.

That would be cool!

Speaking along these lines, do you know of any way to retune the
partials of a Kontakt sample (I don't suppose they're tagged in
the sample)? Perhaps the only way is to record a sound which has
tempered partials...?

-Carl

🔗Robert Strauss <robert@...>

8/6/2006 12:21:48 PM

Kontakt doesn't currently offer any way to directly manipulate the
partials of a sample. If there is some tool from the additive
synthesis world to explode a sample into files for groupings of
partials, I think Kontakt could take it from there... Its something
to look into - thanks for idea!

Robert

Quoting Carl Lumma <ekin@...>:

> At 10:48 AM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>> Carl,
>> A little more technically, the Crossfader script plays a microtuned
>> sample note and up to eight simultaneous instances of the note. From
>> the UI, the pitch of each of the eight instances can be set to a
>> rational fraction relative to the original note. Rather than just
>> play a 'wall' of these harmonics, the script tracks the instantaneous
>> value of a specified midi cc channel to set the overall mix of
>> original note and harmonic clones. From listening to crossfades where
>> the sounding note moves from all fundamental to all harmonic, I
>> realized that linear fades tend to have an annoying volume dip as the
>> relative volumes of fundamental and harmonics cross, so I switched to
>> a cosine/sine model that gives a more constant volume.
>
> Gotcha!
>
>> Like any effect, it can be tedious if overused, but the ability to
>> control simultaneous clone notes in Kontakt is an interesting feature
>> for a sampler. Next up, I'll work on a microtonal constrain-to-scale
>> version that models sympathetic resonance.
>
> That would be cool!
>
> Speaking along these lines, do you know of any way to retune the
> partials of a Kontakt sample (I don't suppose they're tagged in
> the sample)? Perhaps the only way is to record a sound which has
> tempered partials...?
>
> -Carl
>
>

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

8/6/2006 12:32:40 PM

Perhaps one could sample a sine wave and use your crossfader tool...

-Carl

At 12:21 PM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>Kontakt doesn't currently offer any way to directly manipulate the
>partials of a sample. If there is some tool from the additive
>synthesis world to explode a sample into files for groupings of
>partials, I think Kontakt could take it from there... Its something
>to look into - thanks for idea!
>
>Robert
>
>Quoting Carl Lumma <ekin@...>:
>
>> At 10:48 AM 8/6/2006, you wrote:
>>> Carl,
>>> A little more technically, the Crossfader script plays a microtuned
>>> sample note and up to eight simultaneous instances of the note. From
>>> the UI, the pitch of each of the eight instances can be set to a
>>> rational fraction relative to the original note. Rather than just
>>> play a 'wall' of these harmonics, the script tracks the instantaneous
>>> value of a specified midi cc channel to set the overall mix of
>>> original note and harmonic clones. From listening to crossfades where
>>> the sounding note moves from all fundamental to all harmonic, I
>>> realized that linear fades tend to have an annoying volume dip as the
>>> relative volumes of fundamental and harmonics cross, so I switched to
>>> a cosine/sine model that gives a more constant volume.
>>
>> Gotcha!
>>
>>> Like any effect, it can be tedious if overused, but the ability to
>>> control simultaneous clone notes in Kontakt is an interesting feature
>>> for a sampler. Next up, I'll work on a microtonal constrain-to-scale
>>> version that models sympathetic resonance.
>>
>> That would be cool!
>>
>> Speaking along these lines, do you know of any way to retune the
>> partials of a Kontakt sample (I don't suppose they're tagged in
>> the sample)? Perhaps the only way is to record a sound which has
>> tempered partials...?
>>
>> -Carl
>>
>>
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