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🔗George Zelenz <ploo@...>

12/20/2001 1:31:00 PM

Same here Dan. Goosebumps are better, MUCH better, than key mastery.
GZ

"D.Stearns" wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> While I agree with many of the points Moses makes here--namely to
> stand on your own two feet and kick butt, I disagree with many others.
> I'll try and explain some of this by way of example.
>
> When I was trying to get players for my live bands, I needed players
> who could read and get things done on little rehearsal time. I worked
> with a lot of very good players who epitomized the Moses standard of
> mastering things by immersing yourself in a lot of varied playing
> situations. Problem is this tends to breed a career student and if
> you're lucky a seasoned pro, and seasoned pros of this nature are
> better suited for the pit orchestra and the cruise ship gigs and jazz
> with a lowercase j--in short, Moses lite!
>
> It was my experience that I had more guitar students who had a better
> grasp of what their strengths were than I had very accomplished
> players in my bands. There's a big difference between being able and
> capable and playing something because it just has to get out, and this
> is where my "sometimes I think musicians are the worst thing for
> music" attitude comes from.
>
> I'm interested in the people who've found a unique way to light up
> music with their presence. This is what interests me, not so-called
> masters or masterful musicians per say.
>
> I also think Moses makes the process of playing jazz sound somewhat
> akin to scaling Everest backwards in your underwear while blindfolded!
> Being able to play every standard that ever existed in any key at any
> tempo is the sort of thing I was referring to when I said there's some
> exaggerating going on.
>
> I'll settle for someone who can play one song in one key and surprise
> me... give me goosepimples... that's enough for me.
>
> take care,
>
> --Dan Stearns
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "paulerlich" <paul@...>
> To: <MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:57 PM
> Subject: [MMM] Re: Bob Moses editorial
>
> > --- In MakeMicroMusic@y..., "D.Stearns" <STEARNS@C...> wrote:
> > > Hi everybody,
> > >
> > > Amidst some exaggerations and a pretty thick layer of crankiness,
> I
> > > think there's plenty to chew on in this letter Bob Moses sent to
> the
> > > Boston Phoenix regarding an article they ran entitled "Merenda
> Plays
> > > Mingus":
> > >
> > > http://www.amuletrecords.com/bios/moses3.htm
> > >
> > > On the surface of it, this may appear to have little to do with
> > > microtonality, but a lot of the larger issues that are brought up
> > here
> > > surely do... I'd be interested to hear any thoughts that any of
> you
> > > might have regarding these thorny and often contentious issues.
> > >
> > > --Dan Stearns
> >
> > This article was the inspiration for the post on the tuning list
> > which inspired you to write, "sometimes I think musicians are the
> > worst thing for music" . . . Bob Moses is a friend of mine and we've
> > played on gigs together, so you can understand if I say maybe I let
> > his article get to me a little too much.
> >
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