new hyperimprovisation

I recorded an improvisation in 14-equal on Sunday, and played it back
at 2x speed, and it's been stuck in my head ever since. Especially
annoying while I was trying to compose on Tuesday for two clarinets a
sixth-tone apart, which can't really accomodate 14-tet very well. But
there are some very catchy progressions in there, and afterwards I
realized that I managed to base much of it on the same motive, a sort
of +1 -2 motion.

The question is what to do with it now. Can some of the material make
a good foundation for other pieces, or is it too organic to be broken
up? Would it be useful as a solo piano piece somewhere remotely close
to that tempo, which gets insane in a few spots? Do all of the
sections sound "right" enough in this tempo, or is there a better
tempo for some?

Listen, answer, ask more questions, etc. at will.

"tasty" in 14-tet

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=145852

Yeah!

Put up the original speed version! Please? Or some kind of cutting
between the two might be even more, um, seductive ()? Um .

To hyperparaphrase a hyperastute comment that a hypermessy
inhabitant of the overdeveloped world who was a hyperfriend of mine
made: I think it's the most compelling case my undiligent person has
heard (at least lately) for an ET.

;-)

Pete

> Jacob,
>
> First of all, it's brilliant and well-done. Great work! Next, IMHO
> you should keep it as a complete composition, needing nothing else.
> I would really love to have heard this at it's original speed,
just
> to draw out and savor those harmonies and progressions!
>
> Thanks,
> jlsmith
>

hellojacob.Thanks for sharing this!I just spent a few hunks of today
in your soundclick pile and i really like what you're doing...the
massed bassoons in particular, but all of it reaLLY. I think your
14piano improv sounds fins as is,and on the whole better than it
would backsped but I could think you could just edit out whatever
needs editing if you're going to turn it to a "formal" present to
some piano victim . Anyway, thanks again ,and keep up the nice work!

daniel

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob" <jbarton@...> wrote:
>
> I recorded an improvisation in 14-equal on Sunday, and played it
back
> at 2x speed, and it's been stuck in my head ever since. Especially
> annoying while I was trying to compose on Tuesday for two clarinets
a
> sixth-tone apart, which can't really accomodate 14-tet very well.
But
> there are some very catchy progressions in there, and afterwards I
> realized that I managed to base much of it on the same motive, a
sort
> of +1 -2 motion.
>
> The question is what to do with it now. Can some of the material
make
> a good foundation for other pieces, or is it too organic to be
broken
> up? Would it be useful as a solo piano piece somewhere remotely
close
> to that tempo, which gets insane in a few spots? Do all of the
> sections sound "right" enough in this tempo, or is there a better
> tempo for some?
>
> Listen, answer, ask more questions, etc. at will.
>
> "tasty" in 14-tet
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=145852
>

BTW, i also just heard the akron/family's half of a split disk with
Angels of Light, and for some reason i thought this would be a
quickie or something not 100 percent AF magic--WRONG!!!!!!!!!!! When
these guys are on, which they seem to be a shockingly high percentage
of the time, they are just so damn good .wow .It's 7 Akron tunes,
some of which are just as good--if not better!--than the best of
their self titled debut, and that folks is no small feat .Then there
are 5 tunes with Michael Gira using Akron Family as his backing
Angels of Light band (it's ok) . I got this disk today along with an
Iva Bittova--WHO EVERY SELFRESPECTING CREATIVE MUSICIAN SHOULD KNOW--
collaboration with Bang on a Can too, right now i have mixed feelings
on it, but that's also after having the Akrons lift my head off--well
the Iva\BOC collab is pretty okay....but it's also really laidback
(especially for a divna slecinka like her!) in a way i find
disturbing about all the BOC recordings i've heard .For such
a "supergroup" with such a noble repertoire, I just don't think
they're all that good....

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "daniel_anthony_stearns"
<daniel_anthony_stearns@...> wrote:
>
>
> hellojacob.Thanks for sharing this!I just spent a few hunks of
today
> in your soundclick pile and i really like what you're doing...the
> massed bassoons in particular, but all of it reaLLY. I think your
> 14piano improv sounds fins as is,and on the whole better than it
> would backsped but I could think you could just edit out whatever
> needs editing if you're going to turn it to a "formal" present to
> some piano victim . Anyway, thanks again ,and keep up the nice work!
>
> daniel
>
> --- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob" <jbarton@> wrote:
> >
> > I recorded an improvisation in 14-equal on Sunday, and played it
> back
> > at 2x speed, and it's been stuck in my head ever since. Especially
> > annoying while I was trying to compose on Tuesday for two
clarinets
> a
> > sixth-tone apart, which can't really accomodate 14-tet very
well.
> But
> > there are some very catchy progressions in there, and afterwards I
> > realized that I managed to base much of it on the same motive, a
> sort
> > of +1 -2 motion.
> >
> > The question is what to do with it now. Can some of the material
> make
> > a good foundation for other pieces, or is it too organic to be
> broken
> > up? Would it be useful as a solo piano piece somewhere remotely
> close
> > to that tempo, which gets insane in a few spots? Do all of the
> > sections sound "right" enough in this tempo, or is there a better
> > tempo for some?
> >
> > Listen, answer, ask more questions, etc. at will.
> >
> > "tasty" in 14-tet
> >
> > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=145852
> >
>

Hi Jacob,

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, you wrote:
>
> I recorded an improvisation in 14-equal on Sunday, and played it back
> at 2x speed, and it's been stuck in my head ever since. Especially
> annoying while I was trying to compose on Tuesday for two clarinets a
> sixth-tone apart, which can't really accomodate 14-tet very well. But
> there are some very catchy progressions in there, and afterwards I
> realized that I managed to base much of it on the same motive, a sort
> of +1 -2 motion.
>
> The question is what to do with it now. Can some of the material make
> a good foundation for other pieces, or is it too organic to be broken
> up? Would it be useful as a solo piano piece somewhere remotely close
> to that tempo, which gets insane in a few spots? Do all of the
> sections sound "right" enough in this tempo, or is there a better
> tempo for some?
>
> Listen, answer, ask more questions, etc. at will.
>
> "tasty" in 14-tet
>
> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=145852

I like it very much, exactly as it is. You have achieved
a pleasant balance between the varied sections, with
their different moods, articulations and dynamics.
And I do enjoy the melodic flavour of the smaller
intervals. Very ... musical!

Though I *am* curious as to how the sonorities would
develop if played at half, or even one-third, its current
speed.

Minor crit: the ending could be a little stronger.
I think I'm talking more about rhythm and phrasing
here, rather than dynamics.

Regards,
Yahya

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--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Yahya Abdal-Aziz" <yahya@...>
wrote:

> I like it very much, exactly as it is.

And I'm not convinced it would work as well with a lot of other timbres.

Thanks for listening people!

(If you haven't listened,
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=145852&songID=3680443)

More than one person requested the original tempo, so I've posted
midis (retuned and unretuned) at
</makemicromusic/files/jacob%27s%20stash/>.
They're midis so you can do whatever you want to them. Also, the
15-minute length is not hostable at soundclick. Go forth and do
remixes, retunings... I already found a good substitute tuning,
14-out-of-31-with-an-11/31-generator. Indistinguishable in spots...

At the slower tempo more subtleties do go noticed, but by now I've
listened to the sped up version so many times that it sounds righter
to me. I'm considering transcribing/learning it and trying to play it
live somewhere in between the two tempos. You know, in that imaginary
recital in my head where I also play Kyle Gann's Triskaidekaphonia and
sing Chris Bryan's Psalm 42.

Gene, what timbres do you think it would sound bad in? I tried
harpsichord and enjoyed it, but then again I like harpsichords.

Yahya, I maybe agree about the weakness of the ending. Well, the only
part that bothers me is the rhythm once arriving at the final spread
chord.

Infinitely something,
Jacob