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🔗Jacob <jbarton@...>

3/16/2006 8:30:43 PM

If there were to be an MMM day, when would an ideal date be?

Hullabaloo. I'm talking about making some sort of hullabaloo, yes. An
international occurrance. Everybody (no, not actually EVERYBODY) drop
what they're doing. Well, if you were holding a fourteen-tone
crummhorn then you can keep holding it. And just for a second. Just
a second. Make some music or...something. That happens to be
microtonal. In any way possible. In the best possible sense. In any
way that you know how and can.

And an outreach aspect to it, too. Get a friend to listen, to get
his/her hands wet in sticky tuning goo, for a moment. Fool a stalwart
12tet-thumper into hearing an alternative.

This being some kind of decentralized rhizome-type internet community,
there's no need for physical (or even exact temporal) simultaneity.
Though if we are any sort of community (I can never be sure) we would
need a way to have some sort of shared experience, say, by many folks
far and near uploading sound files (maybe so they can be streamed for
dialuppers), perhaps burn some CDs and send them to people without
warning.

Yes, this is product over process, and quantity/spectacle over
quality/experience. That part of it grosses me out. It doesn't
completely turn me off to the idea, but ehhhh.

Now, then, how is sometime in April for everyone? Somebody throw a
date out.

Also, we'll need an Interval of Honor. No, it doesn't have to be
rational! Email me with nominations, and we'll go from there.

ooh, better to send to udderbot(AT)gmail(DOT)com.

🔗Carl Lumma <ekin@...>

3/16/2006 11:24:16 PM

What a great idea!

Rather than burn CDs (ick!), let's get a volunteer to collect
the submitted files and crossfade them together into a 2 hour
set or whatever, and post it on the web and then have everyone
on the list submit the URL to their favorite board (digg,
delicious, etc.).

I volunteer to do the cross-fading. I promise to do it well.

Jon, is this list's site still up? How much space do we have
there?

I also vow to submit a new piece of microtonal music if we
can agree on a day.

-Carl

At 08:30 PM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
>If there were to be an MMM day, when would an ideal date be?
>
>Hullabaloo. I'm talking about making some sort of hullabaloo, yes. An
>international occurrance. Everybody (no, not actually EVERYBODY) drop
>what they're doing. Well, if you were holding a fourteen-tone
>crummhorn then you can keep holding it. And just for a second. Just
>a second. Make some music or...something. That happens to be
>microtonal. In any way possible. In the best possible sense. In any
>way that you know how and can.
>
>And an outreach aspect to it, too. Get a friend to listen, to get
>his/her hands wet in sticky tuning goo, for a moment. Fool a stalwart
>12tet-thumper into hearing an alternative.
>
>This being some kind of decentralized rhizome-type internet community,
>there's no need for physical (or even exact temporal) simultaneity.
>Though if we are any sort of community (I can never be sure) we would
>need a way to have some sort of shared experience, say, by many folks
>far and near uploading sound files (maybe so they can be streamed for
>dialuppers), perhaps burn some CDs and send them to people without
>warning.
>
>Yes, this is product over process, and quantity/spectacle over
>quality/experience. That part of it grosses me out. It doesn't
>completely turn me off to the idea, but ehhhh.
>
>Now, then, how is sometime in April for everyone? Somebody throw a
>date out.
>
>Also, we'll need an Interval of Honor. No, it doesn't have to be
>rational! Email me with nominations, and we'll go from there.
>
>
>ooh, better to send to udderbot(AT)gmail(DOT)com.

🔗Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>

3/16/2006 11:33:49 PM

Carl,

{you wrote...}
>Rather than burn CDs (ick!), let's get a volunteer to collect the submitted files and crossfade them together into a 2 hour set or whatever, and post it on the web and then have everyone on the list submit the URL to their favorite board (digg,
>delicious, etc.).

A-ha.

>I volunteer to do the cross-fading. I promise to do it well.

Okee-dokee.

>Jon, is this list's site still up? How much space do we have there?

Geez, I can't remember! microtonal.org is the only site I still have sitting over at a hosting site called catalog.com. I've got all my other sites migrated to siteocity, and I've certainly got space, and maybe better bandwidth. I'll investigate and get back. But I guess the bottom line is that I'd agree to it, as long as I don't rack up ridiculous bandwidth overage fees (hahahahaha).

The other thing would be to get our illustrious leader, who has been busy with the real world, to host it as one of his microtonal podcasts. Prent? Oh, Pre-ent?

>I also vow to submit a new piece of microtonal music if we can agree on a day.

Will you vow even if we *don't* agree on a day? :) Dedicate it to your son!

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Gene Ward Smith <genewardsmith@...>

3/17/2006 12:39:43 AM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Jacob" <jbarton@...> wrote:

> Also, we'll need an Interval of Honor.

I nominate a 7/6 about 4-5 cents flat.

🔗Yahya Abdal-Aziz <yahya@...>

3/18/2006 6:45:30 AM

Hi Jacob,

On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Jacob Barton wrote:
>
> If there were to be an MMM day, when would an ideal date be?

Every day! ;-)

What a lovely idea! A worldwide "More Music for the Masses"
Day ...

> Hullabaloo. I'm talking about making some sort of hullabaloo, yes. An
> international occurrance. Everybody (no, not actually EVERYBODY) drop
> what they're doing. Well, if you were holding a fourteen-tone
> crummhorn then you can keep holding it. And just for a second. Just
> a second. Make some music or...something. That happens to be
> microtonal. In any way possible. In the best possible sense. In any
> way that you know how and can.
>
> And an outreach aspect to it, too. Get a friend to listen, to get
> his/her hands wet in sticky tuning goo, for a moment. Fool a stalwart
> 12tet-thumper into hearing an alternative.

You're a missionary manqu�. (As opposed to being
a musician monkey; you know, like the organ-grinders
used to have.)

> This being some kind of decentralized rhizome-type internet community,
> there's no need for physical (or even exact temporal) simultaneity.
> Though if we are any sort of community (I can never be sure) we would
> need a way to have some sort of shared experience, say, by many folks
> far and near uploading sound files (maybe so they can be streamed for
> dialuppers), perhaps burn some CDs and send them to people without
> warning.
>
> Yes, this is product over process, and quantity/spectacle over
> quality/experience. That part of it grosses me out. It doesn't
> completely turn me off to the idea, but ehhhh.
>
> Now, then, how is sometime in April for everyone? Somebody throw a
> date out.
>
> Also, we'll need an Interval of Honor. No, it doesn't have to be
> rational! Email me with nominations, and we'll go from there.

I nominate pi/3. Of which interval -
2 give a minor tone between 11/10 and 12/11;
4 give a sharpish minor third;
5 give a sharp major third;
6 give a flat fourth;
9 give a sharp fifth; and
15 don't *quite* close an octave.

Charles Lucy can probably offer you ten more reasons
why we should honour some interval related to pi. The
only one I can think of offhand is because its use goes
back to John "Longitude" Harrison. Which should be
good for attracting some New Age mystics to participate,
eh?

Regards,
Yahya

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🔗Prent Rodgers <prentrodgers@...>

3/18/2006 7:52:24 AM

I'd be happy to host a Hullabaloo on a podcast. Send me your links, a
short paragraph description of the tuning and your construction
technique, and I'll put it together. I have space for a lot of music
if you need it. I've been remiss on the podcasting since November, so
I'd like to do another soon.

Prent Rodgers

> The other thing would be to get our illustrious leader, who has been
> busy with the real world, to host it as one of his microtonal
> podcasts. Prent? Oh, Pre-ent?
>
> Jon
>

🔗Graham Breed <gbreed@...>

4/15/2006 2:46:16 AM

Jacob wrote:

> And an outreach aspect to it, too. Get a friend to listen, to get
> his/her hands wet in sticky tuning goo, for a moment. Fool a stalwart
> 12tet-thumper into hearing an alternative.

Well, I've been playing my part in this. I sent the URL for the podcast to some of my online friends, and I've been touting my MP3 player around the school and its environs. In the dinner hall, I played my piece and the start of the podcast to one of the students who's interested in computers, and his friend. I played my piece to some of my students before lessons. I played it to some people in a toy shop. And I played it to a young lady outside a disreputable establishment where, I hasten to add, I was not involved in the production of sticky goo of a physical nature.

So far, the feedback has been entirely positive. Granted, my students are hardly likely to say they don't like it because I'll be grading them at the end of term. But it's worth noting that nobody's spotted anything odd about the tuning. This is fortunate because I don't know the Chinese for "microtonal" and don't have any lattices to hand. The youngsters in the dinner hall, who got as far as big giant worms (which they seemed to like, although they politely requested I leave after it finished ;) asked if something was "American village music". That might have been my piece as it came around again, or the whole thing (they paid particular attention to the spoken pieces, which of course are Prent and The Bearded One, so they might have spotted the accents). It's possible they're used to hearing different tunings in folk music and only expect pop music to be equally tempered.

Anyway, I'll keep touting it around, and let you know if I get any interesting comments back.

Graham