Re: [MMM] F.Jedzrejewski

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, J.Smith wrote:

> Carl, I have no idea who F. Jedrzejewski (sp?) is, or how he explains > his tunings

If he's the Frank Jedrzejewski that I know, he's a French mathematician who works in his spare time with some of the IRCAM people, on math & music issues. Last I saw him he was giving a lecture showing how to use knot theory to classify twelve-tone rows. Best wishes --Jon

>Carl, I have no idea who F. Jedrzejewski (sp?) is, or how he explains
>his tunings -- which you will find wandering aimlessly and without
>supervision, in the Scala tuning files. See fj-11tet.scl.

Ah, thanks.

>More bad news: I just uploaded another mp3 file at ArtistGigs, a short
>piece in the same vein as "'Ud & Nay". It's called "Wind Rider", uses
>the following tuning: 1/1 - 9/8 - 75/64 - 81/64 - 25/18 - 3/2 - 25/16 -
> 225/128 - 243/128 - 2/1. Clearly, I drink too much coffee.

:)

Can you send me Xenophon1 and Wind Rider? I promise I won't do
anything untoward with them. In the meantime, may I ask your
thoughts on a real server solution for your music? It sounds like
you're interested in being productive, sharing, charging (?), etc.
for your stuff...

Google Base is one solution...
http://base.google.com/
...rumor is, you'll be able to buy/sell stuff there soon.

>Fortunately for the rest of you, the server didn't like the taste of
>it and promptly spit it out when I tried to upload it into the MMM
>files -- twice.

There are only ~4MB left here. Yahoo groups come with a paltry
20MB each.

-Carl

> "Wind Rider", uses
>the following tuning: 1/1 - 9/8 - 75/64 - 81/64 - 25/18 - 3/2 - 25/16 -
> 225/128 - 243/128 - 2/1. Clearly, I drink too much coffee.

This piece reminds me of Bill Sethares' music for some reason.
Have you heard his stuff?

-Carl

>> "Wind Rider", uses
>>the following tuning: 1/1 - 9/8 - 75/64 - 81/64 - 25/18 - 3/2 - 25/16 -
>> 225/128 - 243/128 - 2/1. Clearly, I drink too much coffee.
>
>This piece reminds me of Bill Sethares' music for some reason.
>Have you heard his stuff?

Also maybe a bit of Jacky Ligon. Wow, what a great flute.
Sounds are fantastic all the way around!

It's nice as it is, but I can't help but wish it broke into a
heavier beat with something else in the flute just as it ends.

I think it's a good bit nicer than Ud And Nay.

-Carl

Jon,

{you wrote...}
>--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@...> wrote:
>> This piece reminds me of Bill Sethares' music for some reason.
>> Have you heard his stuff?
>
>Sorry carl, my ignorance is showing again. I'm not familiar with Bill
>or his works -- could you provide a link?

Bill Sethares is a member of this list, but more importantly has done a lot of r&d into timbre, tunings, spectrums, and scales - in fact, that is something like the title of his excellent book, now in 2nd edition. There are some basics here:

http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/ttss.html

Be sure to check around his site for various things, but here are pages with examples from a couple of his CDs:

http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/exo.html
http://eceserv0.ece.wisc.edu/~sethares/xentone.html

Bill does a great job of straddling the line between research and music-making. In fact, the line ceases to exist.

As far as Jacky Ligon, he is a wonderful musician, and helped to start this very list. However, Jacky has taken a more private approach in recent years. He doesn't currently have an online presence, but I'll see if I can find a way to access some of his music. In addition to a deep, deep approach to tuning and synthesis, he is a profound flute player on various hand-made flutes.

Cheers,
Jon

At 05:40 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
>--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Carl Lumma <ekin@...> wrote:
>>
>> > "Wind Rider", uses
>> >the following tuning: 1/1 - 9/8 - 75/64 - 81/64 - 25/18 - 3/2 -
>25/16 -
>> > 225/128 - 243/128 - 2/1. Clearly, I drink too much coffee.
>>
>> This piece reminds me of Bill Sethares' music for some reason.
>> Have you heard his stuff?
>>
>> -Carl
>>
>
>Sorry carl, my ignorance is showing again. I'm not familiar with Bill
>or his works -- could you provide a link?
>
>With gratitude,
>j

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bill+sethares

-Carl

>There you go, dropping names again! Could you provide a link for
>Jacky as well?

I don't know that he has a home page...

>I used the native Orion Pro sampler (with soundfonts from
>HammerSound) for "Wind Rider". I would like to work more nuance into
>my instrumental parts but the Orion's "paint/draw" method of
>parameter change seems clumsy and imprecise -- or else it's just me
>who's clumsy. Also, triplets/quintuplets/etc. aren't available, or I
>haven't discovered them in the help manual as yet. We'll see.

Thanks!

-Carl

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@...> wrote:

>In addition to a deep, deep approach to tuning and synthesis, he is a
profound flute player on various hand-made flutes.

What are the characteristics of his approach to tuning?