Wusik

A while back I was discussing Wusik synth with Jon Szanto, and today I
happened to notice they are having a sale until Jan 10th. 40% off their
version 2 product - get it for only $30. I went ahead and purchased it
myself just now, hoping that the microtuning implementation is usable.
Here's a link...

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115850

It uses ".tun" files, so for me it's a natural to go with Rhino & VAZ.
Once I have a chance to mess with it, I'll report back on the tuning
implementation.

Rick

Hi Rick,

Is this usable standalone? I don't have a "VST host" -- not even sure exactly what that is. I'm mainly a Csound user, and the only other software synth I have (but don't really use yet) is ZynAddSubFX.

- Dave

Rick McGowan wrote:
> A while back I was discussing Wusik synth with Jon Szanto, and today I > happened to notice they are having a sale until Jan 10th. 40% off their > version 2 product - get it for only $30. I went ahead and purchased it > myself just now, hoping that the microtuning implementation is usable. > Here's a link...
> > http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115850
> > It uses ".tun" files, so for me it's a natural to go with Rhino & VAZ. > Once I have a chance to mess with it, I'll report back on the tuning > implementation.
> > Rick

Rick, list...

I'm hoping Rick read my email to him a couple days ago regarding the Wusik tuning implementation. :) :(

{you wrote...}
>... get it for only $30. I went ahead and purchased it myself just now, >hoping that the microtuning implementation is usable.

WilliamK, the developer, seemed responsive to the very problematic first implementation of microtuning, and did some very quick work on the program. It is closer now, but there are still problems. My guess, like many of the VSTs that have implemented micro lately is that they are likely to be successful when doing pure synthesis (because they can calculate the frequencies directly) as opposed to those that use samples in some form (since, given a mutlisampled layout for a 12tet instrument, one would have to do some sophisticated figuring out which notes to use and retune).

Wusik is closer now, but it may depend on the size and kinds of tunings you use. I am sorry that when the fixes got made also coincided with a time period that I had to call a halt to my electronic music making, and I've only recently started up again. Maybe between Rick and I we can pinpoint further any problems and have them resolved.

>Once I have a chance to mess with it, I'll report back on the tuning >implementation.

Well, Rick, if it is a bust for you I'll split the cost! :)

Cheers,
Jon

Dave Seidel asked:

> Is this usable standalone? I don't have a "VST host" -- not
> even sure exactly what that is.

I don't know if Wusik is usable standalone or not. However, even if it
*isn't* usable standalone, you can use "SAVIhost" to host it. I've tried
SAVIhost with several non-standalone VSTs, and it seems to work fine. Get
it here:

http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm

If you want a free VST host, you might also try:

http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm

(I haven't tried it myself. If it works for you, consider a donation to
the author...;-))

Jon has also noted various problems with Wusik's tuning implementation, so
I would say if you don't need *sampling* for some particular reason, go
with Rhino: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/index.php?action=PROD&pcode=140
I still love Rhino best for almost everything.

I just figured that Wusik would be usable for something (hopefully) and
for $30 I couldn't resist. And hopefully there may be an upgrade path to a
version with a better tuning implementation if it doesn't work so well. ;-)

Cheers,

Rick

Jon noted,

> I'm hoping Rick read my email to him a couple days ago
> regarding the Wusik tuning implementation. :) :(

Yes, I did. And today I thought "why not?" for $30 at least as a Wusik
customer who plunked down cash, I can have griping rights about the tuning
implementation if it doesn't work properly. ;-)

> My guess, like many of the VSTs that have implemented micro
> lately is that they are likely to be successful when doing
> pure synthesis (because they can calculate the frequencies
> directly)

By the way, Rhino (v2) *does* seem to implement this correctly with
samples. It has a facility for loading sampled sounds, and you have to tell
it explicitly the real frequency of each sample, and which sample to use
for which keys/ranges on the keyboard. It would be a lot of work to make a
fully sampled instrument with Rhino, but it *does* (seem to) correctly
implement tuning of sampled sounds. [Note that Rhino isn't really a
"sampler" per se, but it can use sampled sounds.]

Rick

Thanks for all the great info, Rick.

- Dave

Rick McGowan wrote:
> Dave Seidel asked:
> > >>Is this usable standalone? I don't have a "VST host" -- not
>>even sure exactly what that is.
> > > I don't know if Wusik is usable standalone or not. However, even if it > *isn't* usable standalone, you can use "SAVIhost" to host it. I've tried > SAVIhost with several non-standalone VSTs, and it seems to work fine. Get > it here:
> > http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm
> > If you want a free VST host, you might also try:
> > http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm
> > (I haven't tried it myself. If it works for you, consider a donation to > the author...;-))
> > Jon has also noted various problems with Wusik's tuning implementation, so > I would say if you don't need *sampling* for some particular reason, go > with Rhino: http://bigtick.pastnotecut.org/index.php?action=PROD&pcode=140
> I still love Rhino best for almost everything.
> > I just figured that Wusik would be usable for something (hopefully) and > for $30 I couldn't resist. And hopefully there may be an upgrade path to a > version with a better tuning implementation if it doesn't work so well. ;-)
> > Cheers,
> > > Rick
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