Rock tone

There is a tone in my old keyboard. I've thought about
putting(storing) it in my computer. (it would be nice if
I could somehow transfer it to the Yamaha, but that's
another story). If anyone is in need of a rocky tone
for some song, let me know and I'll put the tone up in the
files section for you till you download it.

Stephen

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "stephenszpak"
<stephen_szpak@h...> wrote:
>
>
I transfered the rock beat from my old Casio
into my computer using Audacity. I have 10 minutes
of it at its generic speed. (The Yamaha I bought
this year has over 100 beats but it does not seem
to have this one.)

I might figure this out before anyone replies, but
I was wondering if I *have* to record this beat at
multiple speeds or if Audacity can alter the beat speed
a infinite number of ways. I'm pretty sure it could.
I don't *need* a detailed explanation of how to alter
the beat speed, just a 'yes' or 'no' , so I know
if I have to tediously make multiple files in Audacity
for future use at different beat speeds. Thanks.

Stephen

> I might figure this out before anyone replies, but
> I was wondering if I *have* to record this beat at
> multiple speeds or if Audacity can alter the beat speed
> a infinite number of ways. I'm pretty sure it could.
> I don't *need* a detailed explanation of how to alter
> the beat speed, just a 'yes' or 'no' , so I know
> if I have to tediously make multiple files in Audacity
> for future use at different beat speeds. Thanks.

Yes, it's in the effects menu, Chenge Speed, Change Tempo (without
changing pitch) and Change Pitch (without changing tempo)

Gentlemen,

{you wrote...}
>Yes, it's in the effects menu, Chenge Speed, Change Tempo (without >changing pitch) and Change Pitch (without changing tempo)

Bearing in mind that even the most sophisticated time/pitch tools can only stretch/compress so far before it begins to have a very discernable effect on sound quality.

Cheers,
Jon

>Gentlemen,
>
>{you wrote...}
>>Yes, it's in the effects menu, Chenge Speed, Change Tempo (without
>>changing pitch) and Change Pitch (without changing tempo)
>
>Bearing in mind that even the most sophisticated time/pitch tools can only
>stretch/compress so far before it begins to have a very discernable effect
>on sound quality.

Actually percussion can be stretched/compressed absolutely
perfectly in most cases, from 50 to 250 bpm, as long as the
transients are marked in the file. See something like
Spectrasonics Stylus RMX, for example.

But wasn't the beat in this case coming off a Yamaha keyboard?
Almost certainly MIDI, in such a case.

-Carl

C,

{taken out of order, you wrote...}
>But wasn't the beat in this case coming off a Yamaha keyboard? Almost >certainly MIDI, in such a case.

Um, he said it recorded it off the keyboard with Audacity. We're talking an audio file at this point.

>Actually percussion can be stretched/compressed absolutely perfectly in >most cases, from 50 to 250 bpm, as long as the transients are marked in >the file. See something like Spectrasonics Stylus RMX, for example.

I realize that. I was speaking generally about using audio editor time/pitch tools, and specifically - in Stephen's case - about using Audacity to do this. He is unlikely to go out and buy RMX just for this.

And I don't agree with your "absolutely perfectly". If I was doing this, I'd beat slice and re-groove it, but it isn't about what I'd do...

Cheers,
Jon

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@c...> wrote:
+++++++++++ ++ Thanks to all those that responded. The process
here actually seems like it is
simple enough that I could do it. Trying
to later today.

SOMEONE WROTE:
> >But wasn't the beat in this case coming off a Yamaha keyboard?
Almost
> >certainly MIDI, in such a case.
>

++++++++The beat came off my ancient non-MIDI Casio. I used a audio
cable from the Casio to the computer. Sorry I wasn't clearer on
that.
>
>> Stephen Szpak

> >>Yes, it's in the effects menu, Chenge Speed, Change Tempo (without
> >>changing pitch) and Change Pitch (without changing tempo)
> >
>

++++++++++Took 10 seconds of the beat to work on it. Hit play
and it plays through the computer's speakers. Then click on
'Effects" but everything in 'Effects' menu grayed out.

Stephen

Stephen,

{you wrote...}
>++++++++++Took 10 seconds of the beat to work on it. Hit play and it plays >through the computer's speakers. Then click on 'Effects" but everything in >'Effects' menu grayed out.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you have to do some of the work as well. Read the online help that is accessed through the menu, and also spend some time reading the Audacity manual that I sent you the link to. This, and many other questions, are all answered there, and it really is a good thing to spend some time getting to know these programs on your own.

To use an effect, you have to select something to use it on. Select a portion or all of the sound file, by using your mouse and click/dragging (or any other method they suggest in the help files), and once your selection is done (you'll see the waveform highlighted), then you can apply any of the many effects, including tempo shifting.

Cheers,
Jon

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@c...> wrote:

> Jon

""To use an effect, you have to select something to use it on. Select
a
portion or all of the sound file, by using your mouse and
click/dragging""

I'm not big on learning and thinking. Thought you knew.

Thanks,

Stephen

>

>
>>
Got it to work. Neat!

Sometimes I just need a hint.

Other times it's just...well...

> You've heard the saying:

""It's not possible for you to instruct a canine advanced in
years modern trickery.""

> Thanks,
>
> Stephen
>
> >
>

S,

{you wrote...}
>I'm not big on learning and thinking. Thought you knew.

I'm happy to help anyone over the difficult and unclear areas of these things, but you have to hold up your end of the bargain. Again, I refer you to the manual, which I just checked, which not only gives clear explanations about your recent question, including screen captures so you can see what is happening, but also discusses quite a bit about digital audio and related topics - all stuff that you had been asking about before.

I really urge you to set aside some quiet time and go through the manual. You will find, I am sure, a lot of very useful and fun things to do with Audacity, and learn a good deal about digital audio (and music work) in the process.

Cheers,
Jon

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@c...> wrote:
>
>Jon

I realize your frustration. In my original question I didn't even
ask for help as to how to do this anyway:

I don't *need* a detailed explanation of how to alter
the beat speed, just a 'yes' or 'no'...

Stephen