Yahoo Tuning Groups Ultimate Backup makemicromusic 15-note equal temperment tutorial

At my meta-site,

http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/

I have finally succeeded in posting the 15-note Equal Temperment Tutorial. It is a paraphrase of

Blackwood, Easley. "Modes and Chord Progressions in Equal Tunings," Perspectives of New Music, Vol. 39, No. 2, 1992, pp. 167-200

available here for $30:
http://www.perspectivesofnewmusic.org/backissues.html

All the examples are rendered to .mp3 (badly, I might add) and all the examples and rules files for Myriad's Melody Assistant are here:
http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/stuffs/15-note-examples.zip

For what its worth.

-bjc

🔗Herman Miller <hmiller@...>

brentishere@... wrote:
> At my meta-site,
> > http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/
> > I have finally succeeded in posting the 15-note Equal Temperment Tutorial. It is a paraphrase of
> > Blackwood, Easley. "Modes and Chord Progressions in Equal Tunings," Perspectives of New Music, Vol. 39, No. 2, 1992, pp. 167-200
> > available here for $30:
> http://www.perspectivesofnewmusic.org/backissues.html
> > All the examples are rendered to .mp3 (badly, I might add) and all the examples and rules files for Myriad's Melody Assistant are here:
> http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/stuffs/15-note-examples.zip
> > For what its worth.

Cool, 15-ET is one of my favorites; it's nice to have some examples of chord progressions to listen to. If you're having trouble getting your software to work with Blackwood's notation, you might want to try the notation that I use for 15-ET: the notes A-G are equally spaced, with one note of 15-ET between each of them, and two notes of 15-ET between G and A. If you're limited to using sharps and flats, you could use those for the intermediate notes:

....A#....B#....C#....D#....E#....F#.............
.A..Bb.B..Cb.C..Db.D..Eb.E..Fb.F..Gb.G..G#.Ab.A..
.0..1..2..3..4..5..6..7..8..9..10.11.12.13.14.15.

This is a variety of "porcupine" notation as described on this web page:
http://www.io.com/~hmiller/music/temp-porcupine.html

A couple of nice things about this notation: the intervals AC, BD, DF, and EG are minor thirds, and FA and GB are major thirds; the only one that differs from meantone notation is CE, which is a minor third in porcupine notation. The other thing that's interesting about it is that the same notation system can be adapted for 22-ET and 37-ET (among others), in the same way that meantone notation can be used for 19-ET and 31-ET. Also, like meantone notation, it's symmetrical around D.

And here's some more interesting chord progressions to listen to (although I don't think Beethoven was aware at the time that he was actually writing in 15-ET...)

http://www.io.com/~hmiller/midi/mlgt3-15.mid

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@...>

🔗Yahya Abdal-Aziz <yahya@...>

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005, brentishere wrote:
>
> At my meta-site,
> http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/
>
> I have finally succeeded in posting the 15-note Equal Temperment Tutorial.
It is a paraphrase of
> Blackwood, Easley. "Modes and Chord Progressions in Equal Tunings,"
Perspectives of New Music, Vol. 39, No. 2, 1992, pp. 167-200
>
> available here for $30:
> http://www.perspectivesofnewmusic.org/backissues.html
>
> All the examples are rendered to .mp3 (badly, I might add) and all the
examples and rules files for Myriad's Melody Assistant are here:
> http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/stuffs/15-note-examples.zip
>
> For what its worth.

bjc,

It's worth quite a lot, to me, to be able to hear
these examples in 15-EDO. Otherwise, I'd have
to mess around for ages splitting melody lines
over different channels and microtuning them.
Or I'd have to pay more bucks than I can spare
to buy CDs to listen to that I might not even be
able to follow the melody lines on. Your examples
show the notation AND play the sound. Excellent
value for the little trouble of downloading them!

Thanks very much for making the effort to share
this information with us all.

Regards,
Yahya

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🔗stephenszpak <stephen_szpak@...>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Yahya Abdal-Aziz" <yahya@m...>
wrote:
>
> I downloaded this but I'm having problems with the files.
They are ".myr" and ".lex" which Windows says it doesn't
recognize. I must be doing something wrong here.

Stephen Szpak

> > >
> > All the examples are rendered to .mp3 (badly, I might add) and all
the
> examples and rules files for Myriad's Melody Assistant are here:
> > http://home.comcast.net/~brentishere/stuffs/15-note-examples.zip
> >
> >

🔗brentishere@...

The files are specific the Myriad's Melody Assistant, and don't load (to my knowledge) into other programs. What are you using for music making? Melody/Harmony can be gotten at www.myriad-online.com, and is cheap.

-bjc

Stephen Szpak

🔗stephenszpak <stephen_szpak@...>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, brentishere@c... wrote:
>
bjc

(Just use Scala.) I guess it's $20. I'm curious about
what you posted but will hold off for now. S. Szpak
>
> The files are specific the Myriad's Melody Assistant, and don't load
(to my knowledge) into other programs. What are you using for music
making? Melody/Harmony can be gotten at www.myriad-online.com, and is
cheap.
>
> -bjc
>
>

🔗stephenszpak <stephen_szpak@...>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, brentishere@c... wrote:
>
>
Thanks, just downloaded Melody Assistant. Got it to
play some too. Is this the free(ish) software that most poor
people use?

Stephen Szpak

> The files are specific the Myriad's Melody Assistant, and don't load
(to my knowledge) into other programs. What are you using for music
making? Melody/Harmony can be gotten at www.myriad-online.com, and is
cheap.
>
> -bjc
>
>

🔗brentishere@...

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🔗brentishere@...

Sorry, wasn't trying to ignore you there - just took a few days off for, you
know, Christmas. My Mail-posting skills seem to leave a bit to be desired, too (failed attempt 12/27)

In the zip file at my site, are the .lex files (the rules that make 15-note
equal temperment happen) and some .myr files (myriad-specific files) of the
examples that I used ot make the .mp3 files. I s'pose if I were diligent and
ambitious, I'd make them into re-tuned-via-pitch-bend midi files, but that
hasn't struck me yet.

If, of course, you'd consider the examples to be music. Personally, I think it's
like reading theory files.

Certainly, using scala to re-tune files works fine for 12-note scales, but their
algorithms work differently for 15-note than Blackwood's theory does, and I
haven't found a way to one-button-push-change for 12-note into 15-note using
scala, and be happy with it. Hence the Myriad hard way. I do think there is
advantage to being able to write my own rules in Myriad is useful, if not for
any other reason than I've been intimately involved with it's creation, and
hence able to work with it easier than trying to adapt someone else's
cockamainy(sp?) scheme.

I also couldn't help but notice that Blackwood's notation scheme in scala doesn't seem to have the same enharmonics that I derived from the original article. Did I make a mistake?

-bjc

🔗stephenszpak <stephen_szpak@...>

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, brentishere@c... wrote:
>

http://www.answers.com/cockamamie

OR cockamamy

Hope you're not refering to 15 UDF? :)

Stephen

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>
> ...involved with it's creation, and
> hence able to work with it easier than trying to adapt someone
else's
> cockamainy(sp?) scheme.
>
>
>
> -bjc
>