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Hi. I'm completely new to microtonal-music. I've gotta
admit, I'm finding it all overwhelming and
intimidating.

I've had alot of problems in my life, that lead to me
not going to college. It's been a decade since I
graduated. I don't know where to begin college;
especially when I want to learn microtonal music.
Please help me figure this out.

I hope this group is friendly, and can help me find my
way. I've been experimenting with a fretless baritione
guitar. Does anyone know where I can find out what the
notes on it are?

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>Hi. I'm completely new to microtonal-music. I've gotta
>admit, I'm finding it all overwhelming and
>intimidating.
>
>I've had alot of problems in my life, that lead to me
>not going to college. It's been a decade since I
>graduated. I don't know where to begin college;
>especially when I want to learn microtonal music.
>Please help me figure this out.

Does anyone know what kind of program Bill Alves & co.
have at Harvey Mudd?

http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/
http://tinyurl.com/8cvf2?__TerrainOfPossibilites

What about Tenney at CalArts...

http://www.calarts.edu/schools/music/faculty/tenney.html

?

-Carl

there is a class on tuning at Cal arts

Carl Lumma wrote:

>>Hi. I'm completely new to microtonal-music. I've gotta
>>admit, I'm finding it all overwhelming and
>>intimidating.
>>
>>I've had alot of problems in my life, that lead to me
>>not going to college. It's been a decade since I
>>graduated. I don't know where to begin college;
>>especially when I want to learn microtonal music.
>>Please help me figure this out.
>> >>
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>Does anyone know what kind of program Bill Alves & co.
>have at Harvey Mudd?
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>http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/
>http://tinyurl.com/8cvf2?__TerrainOfPossibilites
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>What about Tenney at CalArts...
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>http://www.calarts.edu/schools/music/faculty/tenney.html
>
>?
>
>-Carl
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> >Yahoo! Groups Links
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--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
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> there is a class on tuning at Cal arts
>

Who's teaching it?

> I've had alot of problems in my life, that lead to me
> not going to college. It's been a decade since I
> graduated. I don't know where to begin college;
> especially when I want to learn microtonal music.
> Please help me figure this out.

IMHO...

I don't know if University is the best place to get your feet wet.
There are profs who teach and utilize different tuning systems of
course, but there isn't any substitute for reading theory and
experimenting with sounds for yourself. "Microtonality" isn't a
single subject; it's a plethora of ways of thinking about pitch.
After you mess around on your own (and listen to what others are
doing), you might latch onto a specific niche you like: for me it was
JI, either in diamonds or combinatorial product sets. For someone
else it might be various equal or unequal temperaments.

I guess what I'm saying is, you can educate yourself on the vast array
of possibilities (it is overwhelming, but you'll get through it, I
promise!) The Eikosany was an amazing mystery until Kraig spelled it
out for me. Then, once you've found theories and techniques that work
for you, you can think about finding a school or teacher that can help
you write convincing music. That's what's worked for me, anyway.

> I hope this group is friendly, and can help me find my
> way. I've been experimenting with a fretless baritione
> guitar. Does anyone know where I can find out what the
> notes on it are?

Remember that "the notes" are whatever you make them. The question
isn't where the notes are, but where you want to put them :) I would
start with a computer, playing the pitches that you can then match
(and mark) on the guitar. Other people would suggest finding pitches
you like intuitively. Either way, like anything else in music, it's
about finding what you like and pursuing it.

I hope that helps!

-Chris

tenney. he seems to concentrate on the diamond, i think

ambassadorbob wrote:

>--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...> >wrote:
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>Who's teaching it?
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--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

> I've been experimenting with a fretless baritione
> guitar.

Hello,

I just got together a little fretless acoustic guitar - the first
guitar I had was an electric and it has been interesting this week
repeating their idioms after many years learning a little more
formally (but not scholastically) some of the reasons for choosing one
pair of pitches before another. I remember spending a lot of time
learning the sounds and positions of harmonics I could make on the
strings and it helped cheating a little at first with pencil marks.
Also I listened carefully to beats between different pitches,
experimenting how I could change or anticipate them, this was a lot
easier with frets but now there's a transformer where I practise that
I can use kind of like a drone.

Clark

> the first guitar I had was an electric

fretless, makes it a little clearer

Clark

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Molly Jacobs

> I hope this group is friendly, and can help me find my
> way. I've been experimenting with a fretless baritione
> guitar. Does anyone know where I can find out what the
> notes on it are?

All of them! On a fretless instrument, you can play any notes you want,
any conceivable microtonal scales, as long as your ears and fingers are
up to the task.

Hi Molly,

Maybe this helps. Sorry if you knew already, I didn't.

Very similar string sets, three different pitch levels, apparently.

http://www.juststrings.com/ghs-cu-bari.html
http://www.juststrings.com/dad-exl158.html
http://www.juststrings.com/lab-bge-l.html

Pete