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Re: [MMM] a calm rush

🔗Rick McGowan <rick@...>

9/13/2005 12:07:53 PM

Kraig,

Very nice work. Can you describe something of the textures and tuning?

Rick

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/13/2005 4:05:10 PM

Thanks to both Rick and Jon for listening.

Did this with Logic 7, meta slendro.
The sounds are really some of the more normal ones from it choice of instruments.
in this case, a clavichord for the accompanying pattern. add a mute stop of the same pattern for the fast koto like sounds that come in later.
The melody is using the hammond B3 set up and since i play the melody in broken octaves randomly changing directions plus the left hand is playing tones just below the right hand (most of these are in the range of 30 odd cents) it gives it the effect it does. not to mention that the range of these instruments are overlapping quite a bit.
it could almost be played live

Rick McGowan wrote:

>Kraig,
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>Very nice work. Can you describe something of the textures and tuning?
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> Rick
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--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

🔗Jon Szanto <jszanto@...>

9/13/2005 4:24:15 PM

Kraig,

{you wrote...}
>Thanks to both Rick and Jon for listening.

C'mon - thanks for writing/playing!

>Did this with Logic 7, meta slendro.

OK, I'm going to be a real pig: is this tuning, in any form, in the Scala archives? Or could it be written out by you (i.e. the notes in scale order)?

>The sounds are really some of the more normal ones from it choice of >instruments.

Very nice, as you manage to make electronics sound much more organically germinated. Or my ears are getting fooled easier as I age... :)

Cheers,
Jon

🔗Rick McGowan <rick@...>

9/13/2005 4:27:58 PM

Hey, Jon,

> Did this with Logic 7, meta slendro.

Ah, can't recall the tuning. Did you have a Scala def? I've used a couple
of Balinese tunings fairly extensively over the years.

One other question... It ended with surprising abruptness; is this part of
a piece, or was that intentional? or?

Thanks,
Rick

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/13/2005 4:48:51 PM

i assumed there was a scala file but here it is mine starting on F v.p.s 352 because it have more tones in common with the rest of Erv's structures.
But if one is playing on a 12 tone keyboard. i suggest you might try starting on G# or A of some kind cause then your fingering will be more consistent.

00.00
26.841
203.910
251.344
286.085
470.781
511.518
701.955
737.651
772.628
968.826
999.470

Jon Szanto wrote:

>Kraig,
>
>{you wrote...}
> >
>>Thanks to both Rick and Jon for listening.
>> >>
>
>C'mon - thanks for writing/playing!
>
> >
>>Did this with Logic 7, meta slendro.
>> >>
>
>OK, I'm going to be a real pig: is this tuning, in any form, in the Scala >archives? Or could it be written out by you (i.e. the notes in scale order)?
>
> >
>>The sounds are really some of the more normal ones from it choice of >>instruments.
>> >>
>
>Very nice, as you manage to make electronics sound much more organically >germinated. Or my ears are getting fooled easier as I age... :)
>
>Cheers,
>Jon >
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> >Yahoo! Groups Links
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--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/13/2005 4:49:57 PM

yes that is the ending, for the moment

Rick McGowan wrote:

>Hey, Jon,
>
> >
>>Did this with Logic 7, meta slendro.
>> >>
>
>Ah, can't recall the tuning. Did you have a Scala def? I've used a couple >of Balinese tunings fairly extensively over the years.
>
>One other question... It ended with surprising abruptness; is this part of >a piece, or was that intentional? or?
>
>Thanks,
> Rick
>
>
>
>
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
> >
>
>
> >

--
Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

🔗Paul Erlich <paul@...>

9/15/2005 4:27:08 PM

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
> i assumed there was a scala file but here it is mine starting on F
v.p.s
> 352 because it have more tones in common with the rest of Erv's
structures.
> But if one is playing on a 12 tone keyboard. i suggest you might
try
> starting on G# or A of some kind cause then your fingering will be
more
> consistent.
>
>
> 00.00
> 26.841
> 203.910
> 251.344
> 286.085
> 470.781
> 511.518
> 701.955
> 737.651
> 772.628
> 968.826

Are these cents? If I'm not mistaken, you could have given those
notes of this scale in ratios, and they all turn out to be (octave-
reduced) harmonics of the tonic:

1/1
65/64
9/8
37/32
151/128
21/16
43/32
3/2
49/32
25/16
7/4

> 999.470

That last note doesn't seem to correspond to any such simple ratio,
but it's extremely close to 57/32 at 999.468 . . . is this
intentional?

>
> Jon Szanto wrote:
>
> >Kraig,
> >
> >{you wrote...}
> >
> >
> >>Thanks to both Rick and Jon for listening.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >C'mon - thanks for writing/playing!
> >
> >
> >
> >>Did this with Logic 7, meta slendro.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >OK, I'm going to be a real pig: is this tuning, in any form, in
the Scala
> >archives? Or could it be written out by you (i.e. the notes in
scale order)?
> >
> >
> >
> >>The sounds are really some of the more normal ones from it choice
of
> >>instruments.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Very nice, as you manage to make electronics sound much more
organically
> >germinated. Or my ears are getting fooled easier as I age... :)
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Kraig Grady
> North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
> The Wandering Medicine Show
> KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

9/15/2005 5:19:52 PM

yes these are cents and you are correct in that they are harmonics of the same note, since it is a recurrent sequence.
If i spell out the harmonics as they occur in the series from top to bottom with reducing octaves you have
16
65
9
37
151
21
86
12
49
200
28
114 which is the same as 57 so you are correct.
if i spell them out how this is generated it would be
7,9,12,16,21,28,37,49,65,86,114,151,200
where the first two numbers equals the fourth number , then one keeps moving the pattern to the right.
so that the 2nd and third equal the fifth. etc. which i am sure you understand but in case someone else doesn't.
The fun thing though as one can seed the formula with any interval one wants and come up with different slendros.
10,13,17 is another that erv recommends. one could also do the subharmonic versions
this series converges on log2 .405685231 which is 486.8222 cents so one could also just build a scale superimposing this interval and the fun thing with this is that it is the same upwards or downwards except for the starting point.
-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles