Annie Gosfield's Four Roses

An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point here
http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.

Prent Rodgers

Prent Rodgers wrote:

>An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
>thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
>Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point here
>http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
>to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
>sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.
>
I don't think she uses any system.

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* David Beardsley
* microtonal guitar
* http://biink.com/db

Prent,

{you wrote...}
>They point here >http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
>to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not sure >of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.

Ditto with her piece "The Manufacture of Tangled Ivory" - one movement for a sampled, deconstructed piano, then a movement for small ensemble. It's on one of the Bang on a Can CDs, and great writing.

Cheers,
Jon

If you like de-tuned pianos, the music for the groovy movie "Decasia" is a
great hour-long piece by Michael Gordon for orchestra and four detuned
pianos.

http://www.decasia.com

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>>An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
>>thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
>>Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point here
>>http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
>>to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
>>sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.
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>I don't think she uses any system.
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>* microtonal guitar
>* http://biink.com/db
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I didn't care much for the Four Roses, but these decasia clips 1 & 2
are great.

-Carl

>If you like de-tuned pianos, the music for the groovy movie "Decasia" is a
>great hour-long piece by Michael Gordon for orchestra and four detuned
>pianos.
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>http://www.decasia.com
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
>>[mailto:MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of David Beardsley
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 11:04 AM
>>To: MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [MMM] Annie Gosfield's Four Roses
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>>Prent Rodgers wrote:
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>>>An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
>>>thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
>>>Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point here
>>>http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
>>>to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
>>>sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.

Hi Prent & everyone,

I heard an interview recently on public radio with someone who wrote
for de-tuned piano (a famous rapper who has also done film scores),
and the composer said that 'de-tuned' means that the piano has been
allowed to naturally go out of tune over a period of time. There are
probably "typical scenarios" for this, which I imagine depend to an
extent on the brand/model of instrument involved and environmental
factors.

I suppose if one finds a piano that sounds particularly interesting in
its 'de-tuned' state, one could carefully make note of all of the
pitches produced and thereby (with sufficient piano-tuning skills) a.
keep that piano in its special state indefnitely; and/or b. reproduce
the de-tuning on another piano at will; and/or c. reproduce the de-
tuning electronically. In any case, the idea gives microtonalists yet
another area in which to experiment.

Regards,
George

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Prent Rodgers"
<prentrodgers@c...> wrote:
> An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
> thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
> Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point
here
> http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
> to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
> sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.
>
> Prent Rodgers

Stravinsky is a prime example of tis, and he absolutely refused tolet any one tune it. Maybe he played with it on the sly, as he was a sly devil.
It goes along with my premise that people prefer scales with unequal steps more than equal.

George Henry wrote:

>Hi Prent & everyone,
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>I heard an interview recently on public radio with someone who wrote >for de-tuned piano (a famous rapper who has also done film scores), >and the composer said that 'de-tuned' means that the piano has been >allowed to naturally go out of tune over a period of time. There are >probably "typical scenarios" for this, which I imagine depend to an >extent on the brand/model of instrument involved and environmental >factors.
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>I suppose if one finds a piano that sounds particularly interesting in >its 'de-tuned' state, one could carefully make note of all of the >pitches produced and thereby (with sufficient piano-tuning skills) a. >keep that piano in its special state indefnitely; and/or b. reproduce >the de-tuning on another piano at will; and/or c. reproduce the de-
>tuning electronically. In any case, the idea gives microtonalists yet >another area in which to experiment.
>
>Regards,
>George
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>>An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
>>thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
>>Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point >> >>
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>>to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
>>sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.
>>
>>Prent Rodgers
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--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, David Beardsley <db@b...>
wrote:
> Prent Rodgers wrote:
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> >An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
> >thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog
> >Arts Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They
> >point here
> >http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
> >to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
> >sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.
> >

Quite impressive piece, indeed. Thanks for posting!

> I don't think she uses any system.
>

Hmm, sounds to me that it's just the "Honky-Tonk" effect that matters,
does it?
--
Hans Straub

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, "Prent Rodgers"
<prentrodgers@c...> wrote:
>
> An MP3 of the subject piece showed up on my portable MP3 player,
> thanks to the ANABlog podcast. ANABlog is the blog of the Analog Arts
> Ensemble, located at http://www.analogartsensemble.net . They point here
> http://www.analogartsensemble.net/2005/09/annie-gosfield_11.html
> to music by Annie Gosfield, for cello and "de-tuned piano". I'm not
> sure of the tuning, but the music is wonderful.
>
> Prent Rodgers

I Annie here? If not, does anyone know how to contact her?
I met her a long time ago in NYC, and heard a piece by her
that totally knocked me out. Would love to chat with her again.

-monz
http://tonalsoft.com
Tonescape microtonal music software

Monz,

{you wrote...}
>Is Annie here? If not, does anyone know how to contact her?

I've never seen her here, you should try at:
http://www.anniegosfield.com/

Cheers,
Jon

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Jon Szanto <jszanto@c...> wrote:
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> Monz,
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> {you wrote...}
> >Is Annie here? If not, does anyone know how to contact her?
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> I've never seen her here, you should try at:
> http://www.anniegosfield.com/

Duh ... of course. Thanks, Jon.

-monz