AcousticMicrotonality wiki page

What I hope we can do is to amass helpful data for ways to make
microtonal music acoustically. I started off with a sort of practical
assessment of the capacities of various instruments. It will probably
always be incomplete or imperfect. But the good part (and the bad
part) about any wiki is that you don't have to bother anyone else if
you see something that needs improvement - just improve it yourself!
(Or, if discussion is necessary, argue about it there or here)

http://riters.com/microtonal/index.cgi/AcousticMicrotonality

click "EditText" at the bottom to edit.

The page is already so biased toward pre existing western instruments ,i wouldn't know where to start. so many of the acoustical microtonal instruments are instruments that have been built up from the ground up.
Partch, Cris Forster, myself ( which BTW i have over four vibraphones that have been retuned i have used for years) all do not have an easy place to fit into. and these are the ones that are microtonal , all of the time

Jacob wrote:

>What I hope we can do is to amass helpful data for ways to make
>microtonal music acoustically. I started off with a sort of practical
>assessment of the capacities of various instruments. It will probably
>always be incomplete or imperfect. But the good part (and the bad
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>you see something that needs improvement - just improve it yourself!
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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles

Hello, How I see is there isn't very much difference between
microtonal or twelve-tone acoustic instruments except over-
classification, that the same basic principles permit and restrict
sound production. I guess someone making instruments in some tradition
has great advantage in the lessons it represents that came from past
mistakes -- and sometimes when these are forgotten it might imply to
today's innovator that other things were never done before because
they weren't possible or weren't thought up or were bad ideas, or that
the whole tradition was due to a genius, or idiot. My approach is I
try looking for the mistakes instead of finished conclusions. Clark

--- In MakeMicroMusic@yahoogroups.com, Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@a...>
wrote:
> The page is already so biased toward pre existing western
instruments ,i
> wouldn't know where to start. so many of the acoustical microtonal
> instruments are instruments that have been built up from the ground up.
> Partch, Cris Forster, myself ( which BTW i have over four vibraphones
> that have been retuned i have used for years) all do not have an easy
> place to fit into. and these are the ones that are microtonal , all of
> the time

A category "Instruments that MANDATE microtonality!"

My desire is not for a western bias, and I don't think the page needs
to make a distinction. I do think that useful distinctions would be
unlimited vs. limited pitch resolution, standardized vs.
one-of-a-kind, grappling with an existing instrument vs. rebuilding it
ground up. These are all continuums, and maybe categories are unhelpful.

I worry about this page doing people's thinking for them,
unneccessarily limiting their ideas. I wish it could be nothing more
than a place to see what others have done and thought in the past.

Jacob wrote:

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it seems if you are interested in microtonal instruments the one that mandate it would be the focus, the other are a plethora of limited use instruments.
While many instruments can 'theoretically' produce microtones , the number of individuals like Johnny are limited.
I have found every single western i have worked with problematic.
Even when one can get the pitch, these instruments evolved to their present state via 12 ET and the timbre more often than not doesn't cut it.
to really do microtonal music acoustically, you have to make or modify instruments. compromise is for politics ( where it is usally disastorous anyway) not in the pursuit of beauty and artistic statement
>I worry about this page doing people's thinking for them,
>unneccessarily limiting their ideas. >
this is exactly my problem with it. i should just be left blank and should be filled in as what happens happens

>I wish it could be nothing more
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agreed

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Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria Island <http://anaphoria.com/>
The Wandering Medicine Show
KXLU <http://www.kxlu.com/main.html> 88.9 FM Wed 8-9 pm Los Angeles