is a 5th louder than a third in the same chord?

Hello Paul, and anyone else who is around -- I was
wondering...concerning that familiar chart of harmonic number vs.
amplitude, with each sucessive harmonic much diminished in volume than
the previous...does this phenomenon contribute, at all, to the actual
manner in which a single chord actually vibrates? I mean, assuming,
on the piano, for instance, the chord c-e-b, with each note struck
with equal force, would the interval e-b, being a fifth, and
containing higher amplitude harmonics, be in some way 'louder' that
the third? I imagine it wouldn't be literally, mearably louder, but
perhaps, with the coinciding partials and all that we've discussed
before, is there any amplitude effect at all in that phenomenon?

Regards, Kelly

How is the piano tuned, and are the notes struck with typical human errors in timing?

--- In harmonic_entropy@yahoogroups.com, "traktus5" <kj4321@h...> wrote:
>
> Hello Paul, and anyone else who is around -- I was
> wondering...concerning that familiar chart of harmonic number vs.
> amplitude, with each sucessive harmonic much diminished in volume than
> the previous...does this phenomenon contribute, at all, to the actual
> manner in which a single chord actually vibrates? I mean, assuming,
> on the piano, for instance, the chord c-e-b, with each note struck
> with equal force, would the interval e-b, being a fifth, and
> containing higher amplitude harmonics, be in some way 'louder' that
> the third? I imagine it wouldn't be literally, mearably louder, but
> perhaps, with the coinciding partials and all that we've discussed
> before, is there any amplitude effect at all in that phenomenon?
>
> Regards, Kelly

> How is the piano tuned, and are the notes struck with typical
human errors in timing?

Just ordinary equal tempermant, and an ideal case with each note
struck equally, perhaps by machine...

> >
> > Hello Paul, and anyone else who is around -- I was
> > wondering...concerning that familiar chart of harmonic number
vs.
> > amplitude, with each sucessive harmonic much diminished in
volume than
> > the previous...does this phenomenon contribute, at all, to the
actual
> > manner in which a single chord actually vibrates? I mean,
assuming,
> > on the piano, for instance, the chord c-e-b, with each note
struck
> > with equal force, would the interval e-b, being a fifth, and
> > containing higher amplitude harmonics, be in some way 'louder'
that
> > the third? I imagine it wouldn't be literally, mearably louder,
but
> > perhaps, with the coinciding partials and all that we've
discussed
> > before, is there any amplitude effect at all in that
phenomenon?
> >
> > Regards, Kelly

In the case of equal temperament, the beating will quickly cycle you
through all relative phases, so the amplitudes over time will average
out to being equal.

Meanwhile, some claim that dissonant intervals are louder than
consonant ones.

--- In harmonic_entropy@yahoogroups.com, "traktus5" <kj4321@h...>
wrote:
>
> > How is the piano tuned, and are the notes struck with typical
> human errors in timing?
>
> Just ordinary equal tempermant, and an ideal case with each note
> struck equally, perhaps by machine...
>
>
>
> > >
> > > Hello Paul, and anyone else who is around -- I was
> > > wondering...concerning that familiar chart of harmonic number
> vs.
> > > amplitude, with each sucessive harmonic much diminished in
> volume than
> > > the previous...does this phenomenon contribute, at all, to the
> actual
> > > manner in which a single chord actually vibrates? I mean,
> assuming,
> > > on the piano, for instance, the chord c-e-b, with each note
> struck
> > > with equal force, would the interval e-b, being a fifth, and
> > > containing higher amplitude harmonics, be in some way 'louder'
> that
> > > the third? I imagine it wouldn't be literally, mearably
louder,
> but
> > > perhaps, with the coinciding partials and all that we've
> discussed
> > > before, is there any amplitude effect at all in that
> phenomenon?
> > >
> > > Regards, Kelly