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Re: [cm] integer detectors, Tenney complexity, mclaren, etc.

🔗Kraig Grady <kraiggrady@...>

8/4/2001 1:27:39 AM

I wish to make a comment on this section below!

Central African don't have a concept of scale as we know it. Their use
of pitch is based on their language. Also as i pointed out, as with
indonesian instruments, rougher intervals are louder hence can be heard
at a greater distance. As i also pointed out consonance dissonance is
not in their musical language. The intervals of their scales appear to
have an equality of roughness, allowing a counterpuntal language that is
freer in combining melodic lines.
One other thing- due to the shape of their bars, i have found that
electronic instruments will not read the pitch of Balophone accurately,
finding every pitch in a particular range reading as being "right on". I
have had to resort to a monochord and go by what i was hearing as the
pitch.

In reference to previous post

For those interested in a gestalt approach to the visual arts, I
recommend the books by Rudolf Arnheim. This includes a very small book
called Entropy and Art which has sparked more than one heated debate
with both sides referring to the same book.

Symbols of Transformation by Carl Jung on those interested in an
introduction to the concept of Archetypes.

Carl Lumma quoted Brian:

> > "Our experimentation verified that `perfect' consonances
> >are not a constituent of a Central African concept of the scale.
> >These musicians do not judge a strict octave (1200 cents) to be
> >better than a large major seventh (1150 cents) or a small minor
> >ninth (1250 cents). On the contrary, the Banda Linda musicians
> >prefer the small `octave' (1150 cents) in any register, probably
> >because of the roughness it creates on the octaves that are
> >always played simultaneously with double sticks in each hand."
> >[Voisin, Frederic, "Musical Scales in Central Africa and Java:
> >Modeling by Synthesis," Leonardo Music Journal, Vol. 4, 1994,
> >pg. 89]
>

-- Kraig Grady
North American Embassy of Anaphoria island
http://www.anaphoria.com

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🔗monz <joemonz@...>

8/4/2001 3:09:42 AM

> From: Carl Lumma <carl@...>
> To: <crazy_music@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 12:58 AM
> Subject: [cm] integer detectors, Tenney complexity, mclaren, etc.
>
> ...
> "Warp" melodically "out of tune", compared to 12-tET, you
> [Brian McLaren] mean. Unlike you, I tend to like comma shifts
> in melodies. Like David Doty, I'd call them feature, not a bug.

Me too, me too, me too, me too, and me too.

love / peace / harmony ...

-monz
http://www.monz.org
"All roads lead to n^0"

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