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re Quantum Consciousness

🔗John Chalmers <JHCHALMERS@...>

7/29/2001 4:21:03 PM

Mary:

>What is consciousness (and spirit) has fascinated me since college
>and was a strong impetus for choosing psychiatry, and I still think
>neurobiology is one of the most exciting fields around.

I agree, though the connection between consciousness and neurobiology
is still tenuous. It's clear that disrupting brain chemistry or
structure changes
consciousness in some way, but not how normal consciousness arises from brain
chemistry and structure.

>I don't think timescale is critical again if you are thinking about
>implicate order and vertical information, but that is off the top of
>my head.

Bohm's implicate order interpretation of QM makes exactly the same
quantitative predictions
as the conventional Copenhagen one, but, IIRC, it still has unobservable
quantities or
entities. Because of this, most QM's don't find it very useful.

Tegmark's point is that any quantum superpositions are far too
evanescent to have any
influence on the behavior of neurons, which are classical, or
perception. However, he
thinks that ensembles of neurons, if I understand him, may have a
collective
behavior he calls "hyperclassical." This is another form of
unpredictability, though classical in origin.

>Since we are moving to Tucson I plan on attending the Tucson
>Conference in Consciousness next year

Tuscon is quite near both El Paso, TX and Pomona,CA. Hope you can
attend either or both microtonal conferences (El Paso in Nov 2001),
Pomona-Claremont in 2002).

> I think harmonic studies using microtubular preparations might be fascinating,
>somewhat akin to the sound plate studies that have been done.

Are you refering to Hans Jenny's work here? A former student, Whilst
Phew, lent me
his book a couple of years ago. Chladni figures?

--John

--John