Re: [cm] Boomsliter and Creel

Carl!
The organ was not their initial way of having listeners choose
pitches. A monochord was used first ad only after extensive results was
the organ built to produce the pitches they were finding. Can't say i
like this direction they took but with limited funding (as they were
threatening so many gold calves) it wasn't completely unjustified.

Carl Lumma wrote:

> mclaren wrote...
>
>
> > First, since B&C present while the listener used the
> > search organ, they could have influenced hi/r without
> > meaning to.
>
> Yep.
>
> > Second, the listener being tested always knew which
> > pitches on the search organ he was playing, so there was
> > a vast opportunity for bias, depending on the test
> > subject's innate theoretical bias.
>
> Yep, though unlikely that the subjects could have figured
> out in real time which sequences amounted to a chain of
> small ratios and which didn't.
>
> > Third, the test subjects were ONLY given a choice
> > of pitches already chosen on the search organ by
> > Boomsliter & Creel, which intolerably and unacceptably
> > biases the entire experiment.
>
> This strikes me as the first serious problem.
>

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Kraig Grady wrote...

> Carl!
> The organ was not their initial way of having listeners choose
> pitches. A monochord was used first ad only after extensive results
> was the organ built to produce the pitches they were finding. Can't
> say i like this direction they took but with limited funding (as
> they were threatening so many gold calves) it wasn't completely
> unjustified.

Yes, I know. I'm the one who provided Erv with the Creel's original
thesis. As mclaren points out, and you seem to agree, the monochord
is even worse than the search organ.

-Carl