Re: [crazy_music] Carl Lumma winds up disappointed

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> FROM: mclaren
> TO: new practical microtonality list
> SUBJECT: Carl Lumma winds up disappointed
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> Carl Lumma now says he's "disappointed"
> by my post stating the documented facts about
> him.

Hell...we're all disapointed with you Brian.

db

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>To: crazy_music@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [crazy_music] Carl Lumma winds up disappointed
>Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2001, 3:22 AM
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> If you had, you'd know instantly that anyone
> can hear they sound out of tune. Some listeners,
> like Jeff Scott describe the result as "brutal
> abortions," while other listeners (like myself)
> simply consider them "out of tune."

Arg! Please be more careful when quoting me!

Here is what I said (in part):

>> I accept that John actually likes those consonant low-limit
>> chords. And I believe that he hears things the way he does.
>> And that is fine. EVERYBODY has programmed their neural
>> networks differently and projective value judgements are
>> impossible. We can only describe what we ourselves hear and
>> have no ability to hear what other people do.

>> I listen to all the examples he puts up of well known music
>> he's retuned and it drives me nuts! I hate it! It sounds
>> horrible to me! I can hardly bear to listen to it!

>> I remain quiet though since I see there is potential.

>> But I know that his whole system is under development and so
>> I trudge on, obediently listening to each new example,
>> hoping that *someday* I won't be irritable and annoyed after
>> listening to these brutal abominations!!
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>> Today is that day!

Note also that I didn't say anyone (& everyone) hears
it this way -- I only speak for myself.

In case anyone wonders what the difference is:

art as abortion -- a creative act never made it to
birth because the art was malformed or its creator
was not healthy enough to bring it forth

art as abomination -- a creative act has been brought
forth but it is a malformed monstrosity, shocking
to the sensibilities of ordinary people!

:-P

- Jeff

--
"What's more complex? A piano? Or the function of blood
clotting?" -- A question from X. J. Scott