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Hi everybody,

how big is this liferaft?

GZ

> Hi everybody,
>
> how big is this liferaft?
>
> GZ

I think big enough to rescue everyone who fell
in the water!

I really liked that funk piece you put up last week,
George!

- Jeff

Thanks Jeff!

"X. J. Scott" wrote:

> > Hi everybody,
> >
> > how big is this liferaft?
> >
> > GZ
>
> I think big enough to rescue everyone who fell
> in the water!
>
> I really liked that funk piece you put up last week,
> George!
>
> - Jeff
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Hi there,

This is just an idea for discussion:

My Archive Magic program can be used to repost all the messages from
the PMG group if wished.

I don't actually have those messages; didn't get it to download them.

However, my program can extract the individual messages from
the digests, if we can find them all. (I have all except the early
ones).

I could also get it to generate a list of the e-mail addresses of all
those who posted, since the complete e-mail addresses are shown in
the digests, and then we could mail to them all and ask if they are
happy for their posts to be re-posted, which would also be a way of
letting everyone know about the new group (as some of the members
don't belong to the tuning list).

I haven't quite figured out how to program to send an e-mail with the
original author of the post as the apparent originator of the
e-mail, so the re-posted messages would all have to show up
under my name as author, but would be shown as forwarded messages

Like this:

In messages listings:

Author: Robert Walker
Subject: FW: Re: Wooden frets?! - David J. Finnamore

Body of message:

............................

Forward: message from David J. Finnamore originally posted Sun, 20
May 2001 14:28:57

--- In practicalmicrotonality@y..., "Orphon Soul, Inc." <tuning@o...>
wrote:
> Different temperaments wind up having different envelopes.
> 41 resonates noticeably longer than most others thereabouts.

That might be explained partly by the following graph, if you have a
graphical browser:

http://personal.bna.bellsouth.net/bna/d/f/dfin/DefectsETs.htm
...
............................

If anyone wants their messages left out, we could delete those ones
before forwarding all the rest.

It would take a while to do the uploading as one has to keep to
less than 50 messages every 20 minutes. If you go over that
number, then Yahoo's detection system for auto-responding
goes into effect.

Yahoo's problem here is the "I am on vacation" type message
that some people set as an automatic response to an incoming
e-mail. Suppose also they are on individual e-mail subscription.
Their p.c. gets an e-mail from a Yahoo group, replies with the
"I am on vacation" response, that gets relayed back to them
as a post from the group, their p.c. replies to that saying
"I am on vacation" again, ...

So, would upload at rate of one message every 30 seconds, say,
then 450 messages would take getting on for four hours.

Maybe more - e.g. if my ISP disconnects (as it can) and I have
to reconnect.

I could warn you about it in advance, and we could all switch to no
e-mail mode, (or get Jeff to do it for us) while it happened.

However, that seems an awkward solution.

A better idea, if we want to do this, might be to do it the other
way round - I'd ask Jeff to make another group, say, new_crazy_music
then before anyone joins it, I'd forward all the posts from PMG to
it.

When that was all done, I'd let you know, and then Jeff can rename
crazy_music to crazy_music_was, and then rename the new_crazy_music
to crazy_music.

Then we all rejoin crazy_music.

Then finally, I can repost all the messages from crazy_music_was to
crazy_music, and there we are, all the posts from PMG in
chronological order, followed by the ones from crazy_music.

Anyway, no idea whether this the thing to do, it's something to
discuss, but it may be of interest to know that it can be done if
we do decide on it.

Robert

SOunds good to me. I know I would like to get some of the scales
that were posted archivedwithout having to bother anyone for
individual messages.

Robert I keep meaning to ask you. Have you ever thought about
porting FTS to the Palm OS. I don't know how difficult tht would be,
but it would have so many uses. Besides amusement while traveling,
and ear training, it could also be used as a portable tuner. Palms
are being dumped onto the market here (way too much inventory) which
is driving their price down here in the US. I know MIDI is available
on a PALM, although I haven't really investigated it.

Also could use your archiving program so one could read old tuning
messages at odd moments and such.

Just a thought that keeps coming up.

Mary

Hi Mary,

> SOunds good to me. I know I would like to get some of the scales
> that were posted archivedwithout having to bother anyone for
> individual messages.

I've just posted about that. We could do that, or I could do a zip of
all the digests. I'm missing digests 1 to 4 so if anyone has those
would be a help. I think I'd leave out Brian's posts, may be
a wise move, and I don't think he posted any scales or the like,
just criticism, as far as I know.

> Robert I keep meaning to ask you. Have you ever thought about
> porting FTS to the Palm OS. I don't know how difficult tht would be,
> but it would have so many uses. Besides amusement while traveling,
> and ear training, it could also be used as a portable tuner. Palms
> are being dumped onto the market here (way too much inventory) which
> is driving their price down here in the US. I know MIDI is available
> on a PALM, although I haven't really investigated it.

> Also could use your archiving program so one could read old tuning
> messages at odd moments and such.

> Just a thought that keeps coming up.

I can see that would be a nice thing to be able to do.

I've had a look at the compiler help to find out more. It can be done,
but there is rather more involved than one would expect, as Windows CE
(which is used for Palm tops) is a cut down version of Windows, which
doesn't have all the features, so one needs work arounds for that.

Also, the programming environment is similar, but not completely
identical, mainly, the handling of text isn't quite the same,
and a couple of graphics routines (one is to draw a line) are missing.

So, I'll keep it in mind, but as there is quite a lot involved, doesn't
look like something I'll do in the near future. Unfortunately, isn't
just a matter of re-building it for Windows CE; at least some rewriting
of the code would also be needed.

Maybe some day I'll get the Windows CE compiler, and experiment with some
smaller programs first, that would be the way to do it if one wanted
to get this going. However, I can't see it happening in the immediate
future.

Sorry about that, and thanks for the suggestion!

Robert

Hi there,

Maybe a solution that would please everyone would be to repost
all the messages in all the PM digests except the last two?

Or make archive of the same.

Would need permission to repost of course for all the original
posters. Not to make archive and make it available to those who
were in PMG - that I'm sure is okay.

My program can be set to repost all the messages in batches,
say of 40 posts every half hour, and just left to get on with
it. So would be easy to forward all the posts, as regards
practicalities.

I have several e-mail addresses from computer and would use
a new one to forward the messages, and rejoin under new Id to
do so, in case I do happen to overstep the Yahoo limit, but the
post to me was clear - if you keep to within 50 messages
in 20 minutes, you are okay.

Robert