Re: [crazy_music] Digest Number 10

Hi Mary,

> > I wonder if someone who trances easily needs to be careful about the
> > type of music you listen to when driving, if listening to any music
> > at all? I suppose that is what I had in mind about kind of warning
> about it.
> >
> Yes. Ahem. I am not the world's most attentive driver. My husband
> refuses to be in a car when I am driving for that is worth :-), but
> I've never had an accident.

Well, that's the main thing.

I'm not a driver myself, but decidedly absent minded. I'm okay at bicycle
pace, but not tested at faster speeds!

> > I suppose when one listens to music intently, say, something like a
> > string quartet, one gets so absorbed in the music, one is less aware
> > of everything else - I don't know if that is related to the trance
> > idea. Do you know the Hoffnung short cartoon about a string quartet
> > playing away while their stage is dismantled and placed on a lorry,
> > and so forth, not aware of anything around them, so absorbed in the
> > music?
> >
> > That certainly happens to me to some extent, and I think it is prob.
> > fairly common. One is still aware of the music, but one kind of
> feels
> > it as much as one hears it. I expect many musicians who think they
> > never go into a trance can relate to that experience, but I don't
> know
> > if it is the same thing. I think it is the same thing, and I think
> the capacity to become totally absorbed, or completely focused, is a
> trance.
>
> > I expect the matter of dissonances waking one up may be largely
> > a matter of familiarity. 17-tet dissonances would be particularly
> > unfamiliar, and a new dissonance would wake one up. Also of course
> > it is a lively temperament and not likely to be part. conducive
> > to trance, and that it is at all perhaps shows there is another
> > side to 17-tet.
> >
> , just as sleep and dreaming are healing things too.
>
> Exactly. the most healing states are not full beta consciousness.
> For myself, if I can't spend some time each day daydreaming, or what
> I call exploring other realms and dimensions, I get very cranky and
> don't feel terribly creative. Again getting fully absorbed in
> something also works for me in the same way. My suspicion is there
> is a chemistry generated in these states that is beneficial for the
> body.

I found this very helpful, thanks. I'm sure there is something to be
said for setting time aside for daydreaming if one finds oneself
overworking. Just a pause to listen to some beautiful music
can do that. Or a walk out of doors too in beautiful countryside,
if one is that way inclined, anything inspiring and not quite hum drum.

> >
> > However, truth is, I prefer my listeners to hear my music rather
> > than to go into a trance and miss it all, but may be not quite
> > getting what a trance is all about when I say that.
>
> For myself I tend to hear everything much more clearly in an altered
> state of consciousness - almost like I can stretch time and have
> enough space to hear every little nuance. I don't however remember,
> or choose to remember, every detail when I'm back in full waking
> consciousness, in part I think because the feeling is most precious
> to me. Actually as I read over these words I realize my own personal
> goal with music is to be able to express more and more of the beauty
> and sacredness I can feel in these states, using my voice in
> particular.

That makes sense, thanks! I've tried listening to one of your
pieces taking this especially in mind and it is a nice way to do it.
I can understand how one might be so immersed in the music that though
one is very aware of it at the time, one doesn't necessarily remember much about
it later.

I think that sometimes happens when I listen to some
music, such as maybe a string quartet in some situations.
Can be quite spaced out afterwards, and it isn't so easy
to talk immediately because one has been in a realm where music takes
the place of speech, and one wants to join in making music
rather than speak, something like that. I can relate that to
journeying to other realms - like one has been in a string quartet
realm, and it takes a moment or two to get back to the
ordinary realm we are in normally (or think we are in
anyway).

Maybe I do trance then, but never called it that.

>
> Its fun talking about this stuff with you Robert.

Thanks, I'm enjoying talking about it too.

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Robert

Yes. Ahem. I am not the world's most attentive driver:-), but
> .I've never had an accident

Well, that's the main thing.

Here's a funny story you might enjoy. I was driving a lama (Sakya)
to catch a train through midday traffic in washington DC. We were
late, traffic was heavy and I was driving a bit recklessly trying to
make up time. Thelama murmered something to me about slowing down
and I said "oh don't worry. Tara's here and we are very protected.
He turned and looked at me and said "Don't make Tara work overtime"!
That line still totally cracks me up, and also contains a lot of
wisdom. I remember it often :-))